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Re: QTVR - Flash

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  • Hans Nyberg
    ... Yes if you want to use just one panorama file. Flashpanoramas is the only one that has a movdecoder. With pano2VR you get an swf file which contains
    Message 1 of 31 , Feb 4, 2008
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      --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "sphereworks" <sphereworkspete@...> wrote:
      >
      > Just to clarify, do I need to perchace the Flash Panorama Player to
      > display QTVR files in Flash?

      Yes if you want to use just one panorama file.
      Flashpanoramas is the only one that has a movdecoder.

      With pano2VR you get an swf file which contains everything including a toolbar.
      Try the demo version. It just makes watermarks when you save the files.

      Hans

      >
      > Pete
      > www.sphereworks.co.uk
      >
      >
      > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Hans Nyberg" <hans@> wrote:
      > >
      > > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "sphereworks"
      > <sphereworkspete@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > So how are you creating such a smooth image? I've not seen this
      > > > anywhere else. Do I need flash panorams to do it?
      > >
      > > It all has too do with the settings you use.
      > >
      > > In flashpanoramas it can all be done with 3 settings.
      > > The combination you use depend on what type of images you have.
      > > The quality settings with flashpanoramas are different than pano2VR
      > flash but you should
      > > be able to achieve the same with Pano2VR
      > >
      > > You have 3 main settings to play with.
      > > This is the default
      > > segments=20
      > > qualityStatic=medium
      > > qualityMotion=low
      > >
      > > If you increse the segments you reduce the wavy lines.
      > > However this makes panning less fluent.
      > >
      > > qualitymotion=medium decreases the shimmer effect but you have to
      > keep segments at
      > > 30 or less to get smooth panning.
      > >
      > > With qualitymotion =low and segments=35 you get almost no wavy
      > lines.
      > > Thats what my example here uses
      > http://www.panoramas.dk/flash/cubeqtvr2.html
      > > It also has the qualitystatic set to high
      > >
      > > The English university tour uses
      > > segments=30
      > > qualityStatic=medium
      > > qualityMotion=medium
      > > The Danish version has qualityMotion=low
      > >
      > > There are also other parameters to control the way the panorama
      > reacts to the mouse
      > > movement or to the keys.
      > >
      > > You can easy play around with the editor to find the settings.
      > > http://flashpanoramas.com/blog/2007/05/28/editor-plugin-v10-beta/
      > >
      > > Hans
      > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > Many Thanks,
      > > >
      > > > Pete
      > > > www.sphereworks.co.uk
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Hans Nyberg" <hans@> wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "sphereworks"
      > > > <sphereworkspete@> wrote:
      > > > > >
      > > > > > This jitteryness you talk about in the image Hans showed I
      > cannot
      > > > > > see, on my computer it's fine. The demo of the bathroom on
      > the
      > > > flash
      > > > > > panorama page is slow for me but still quite smooth. So this
      > is
      > > > > > obviously varies from different computers.
      > > > >
      > > > > I do not understand it either. I have tested them on an old
      > 800mhz
      > > > pentium box with just
      > > > > 256mb Ram and there is no Jitteryness. I did have in my first
      > tests
      > > > as I used higher quality.
      > > > > This had also to do with the audio. I used a Flashmovie as
      > sound in
      > > > the first tests.
      > > > > You will se the same if you include a video in the panorama
      > which
      > > > is very easy with
      > > > > flashpanoramas.
      > > > > I changed to an mp3 player and it helped.
      > > > >
      > > > > Just stop the sound and check if it makes a difference.
      > > > >
      > > > > I still have higher quality in the English version so that
      > might
      > > > affect older computers.
      > > > > However generally Flash has always performed better on Windows
      > than
      > > > Mac.
      > > > >
      > > > > > The examples on the pano2VR site are acceptable to me but
      > there
      > > > is
      > > > > > still a jitter there.
      > > > >
      > > > > I have discovered one difference between Pano2VR and Pano2QTVR
      > and
      > > > flashpanoramas
      > > > > viewer.
      > > > >
      > > > > I have an old Virtual PC on my Mac G5. Thats about the same as
      > a
      > > > 450mhz Pentium.
      > > > > Quicktime VR works just fine in Fullscreen on this oldie.
      > Actually
      > > > quite smooth panning.
      > > > >
      > > > > Flashpanoramas does not show up at all. Just black screen.
      > > > > The pano2VR flash 9 and 8 both works even if they are jittery.
      > > > > Even without much distortion.
      > > > >
      > > > > Immervision looks like a psychedelic experiment. If I can load
      > it
      > > > at all.
      > > > >
      > > > > Hans
      > > > >
      > > > > > I think I might upgrade to pano2VR soon from pano2QTVR as
      > their
      > > > seems
      > > > > > to be an improvement but by the looks of it maybe it's still
      > not
      > > > > > ready for everyday use. I have a few clients that insisted
      > on
      > > > Flash
      > > > > > before and I have provided it, but have never been happy with
      > > > it.
      > > > > > Small screen images in Flash I have no problem, and as soon
      > as I
      > > > have
      > > > > > time (hopefully soon) will try and change all the small panos
      > on
      > > > my
      > > > > > site to flash.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > QuickTime and DevalVR are still king for me at the moment.
      > From
      > > > a
      > > > > > commercial point of view Flash is better as more people
      > already
      > > > have
      > > > > > it installed, so I'm eagerly waiting for improvements.
      > > > >
      > > >
      > >
      >
    • Hans Nyberg
      ... Yes if you want to use just one panorama file. Flashpanoramas is the only one that has a movdecoder. With pano2VR you get an swf file which contains
      Message 31 of 31 , Feb 4, 2008
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        --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "sphereworks" <sphereworkspete@...> wrote:
        >
        > Just to clarify, do I need to perchace the Flash Panorama Player to
        > display QTVR files in Flash?

        Yes if you want to use just one panorama file.
        Flashpanoramas is the only one that has a movdecoder.

        With pano2VR you get an swf file which contains everything including a toolbar.
        Try the demo version. It just makes watermarks when you save the files.

        Hans

        >
        > Pete
        > www.sphereworks.co.uk
        >
        >
        > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Hans Nyberg" <hans@> wrote:
        > >
        > > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "sphereworks"
        > <sphereworkspete@> wrote:
        > > >
        > > > So how are you creating such a smooth image? I've not seen this
        > > > anywhere else. Do I need flash panorams to do it?
        > >
        > > It all has too do with the settings you use.
        > >
        > > In flashpanoramas it can all be done with 3 settings.
        > > The combination you use depend on what type of images you have.
        > > The quality settings with flashpanoramas are different than pano2VR
        > flash but you should
        > > be able to achieve the same with Pano2VR
        > >
        > > You have 3 main settings to play with.
        > > This is the default
        > > segments=20
        > > qualityStatic=medium
        > > qualityMotion=low
        > >
        > > If you increse the segments you reduce the wavy lines.
        > > However this makes panning less fluent.
        > >
        > > qualitymotion=medium decreases the shimmer effect but you have to
        > keep segments at
        > > 30 or less to get smooth panning.
        > >
        > > With qualitymotion =low and segments=35 you get almost no wavy
        > lines.
        > > Thats what my example here uses
        > http://www.panoramas.dk/flash/cubeqtvr2.html
        > > It also has the qualitystatic set to high
        > >
        > > The English university tour uses
        > > segments=30
        > > qualityStatic=medium
        > > qualityMotion=medium
        > > The Danish version has qualityMotion=low
        > >
        > > There are also other parameters to control the way the panorama
        > reacts to the mouse
        > > movement or to the keys.
        > >
        > > You can easy play around with the editor to find the settings.
        > > http://flashpanoramas.com/blog/2007/05/28/editor-plugin-v10-beta/
        > >
        > > Hans
        > >
        > > >
        > > >
        > > > Many Thanks,
        > > >
        > > > Pete
        > > > www.sphereworks.co.uk
        > > >
        > > >
        > > > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "Hans Nyberg" <hans@> wrote:
        > > > >
        > > > > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "sphereworks"
        > > > <sphereworkspete@> wrote:
        > > > > >
        > > > > > This jitteryness you talk about in the image Hans showed I
        > cannot
        > > > > > see, on my computer it's fine. The demo of the bathroom on
        > the
        > > > flash
        > > > > > panorama page is slow for me but still quite smooth. So this
        > is
        > > > > > obviously varies from different computers.
        > > > >
        > > > > I do not understand it either. I have tested them on an old
        > 800mhz
        > > > pentium box with just
        > > > > 256mb Ram and there is no Jitteryness. I did have in my first
        > tests
        > > > as I used higher quality.
        > > > > This had also to do with the audio. I used a Flashmovie as
        > sound in
        > > > the first tests.
        > > > > You will se the same if you include a video in the panorama
        > which
        > > > is very easy with
        > > > > flashpanoramas.
        > > > > I changed to an mp3 player and it helped.
        > > > >
        > > > > Just stop the sound and check if it makes a difference.
        > > > >
        > > > > I still have higher quality in the English version so that
        > might
        > > > affect older computers.
        > > > > However generally Flash has always performed better on Windows
        > than
        > > > Mac.
        > > > >
        > > > > > The examples on the pano2VR site are acceptable to me but
        > there
        > > > is
        > > > > > still a jitter there.
        > > > >
        > > > > I have discovered one difference between Pano2VR and Pano2QTVR
        > and
        > > > flashpanoramas
        > > > > viewer.
        > > > >
        > > > > I have an old Virtual PC on my Mac G5. Thats about the same as
        > a
        > > > 450mhz Pentium.
        > > > > Quicktime VR works just fine in Fullscreen on this oldie.
        > Actually
        > > > quite smooth panning.
        > > > >
        > > > > Flashpanoramas does not show up at all. Just black screen.
        > > > > The pano2VR flash 9 and 8 both works even if they are jittery.
        > > > > Even without much distortion.
        > > > >
        > > > > Immervision looks like a psychedelic experiment. If I can load
        > it
        > > > at all.
        > > > >
        > > > > Hans
        > > > >
        > > > > > I think I might upgrade to pano2VR soon from pano2QTVR as
        > their
        > > > seems
        > > > > > to be an improvement but by the looks of it maybe it's still
        > not
        > > > > > ready for everyday use. I have a few clients that insisted
        > on
        > > > Flash
        > > > > > before and I have provided it, but have never been happy with
        > > > it.
        > > > > > Small screen images in Flash I have no problem, and as soon
        > as I
        > > > have
        > > > > > time (hopefully soon) will try and change all the small panos
        > on
        > > > my
        > > > > > site to flash.
        > > > > >
        > > > > > QuickTime and DevalVR are still king for me at the moment.
        > From
        > > > a
        > > > > > commercial point of view Flash is better as more people
        > already
        > > > have
        > > > > > it installed, so I'm eagerly waiting for improvements.
        > > > >
        > > >
        > >
        >
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