Re: secular sara.na.m in Pali, was Re: [Pali] Sara.na.m
- Dharma friends,
I have the VCD myself (hope we are referring to the same thing). However I notice
that the movie story is very much different from the Majjhima or Commentary version.
In the movie Mara in the disguise of some high god seems to take all the blame.
Anyway, it is a movie fiction and should be taken that way. For those who do not know
the original story, it might have some impact that evil does not pay.
"Ven. Yuttadhammo" wrote:
> Dear Friends,
> > Those who wish may get a copy of the DVD for US$7 here:
> > http://www.ethaicd.com/show.php?pid=9919
> Yong Peng, I'm sorry but this is NOT the DVD... I was hoping somehow
> to get it, because then I could show it to the foreigners here... as
> far as I can see, this is the VCD edition... The VCD is good, but no
> English subtitles.
> Best wishes,
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- Dear Piya,
> I have the VCD myself (hope we are referring to the same thing).True that it is different, but movies are usually like this... I think
> However I notice
> that the movie story is very much different from the Majjhima or
> Commentary version.
it is pretty close...
1) the idea that Angulimala's problems start with the teacher's wife
2) the killing of 1000 people
3) the attempted murder of the mother
4) the scene where the Buddha tells Angulimala that he is the one who
I particularly like the scene with the Lord Buddha, where Angulimala
sees impermanence, suffering and non-self. Apparantly this is the
same thing that happened with Luang Poh Sot, a very famous Samatha
master in Thailand who went to practice at Wat Mahadhatu. He was
famous for his mental images which he called "dhammakaya". When he
was told to acknowledge "seeing", after a few days the "dhammakaya"
suddenly disappeared and he was left scared. I'm told that his words
of praise for the teaching at Wat Mahadhatu can still be found in
> In the movie Mara in the disguise of some high god seems to take allIn the Majjhima there is no mention of why he started killing... that
> the blame.
only comes in the commentaries. One reason why it is different is
that Thai people are very, very careful about the Lord Buddha. I once
mentioned to a Thai monk about making a movie about the Lord Buddha's
life. He turned to me and said "would you ever dare to pretend to be
the Lord Buddha?" Apparently in the past versions of Angulimala, all
they showed were the Buddha's feet, walking. In this one, they show
His whole shape, and even features from far away. But I think there
is reason they don't have the part with the Buddha talking to King
> Anyway, it is a movie fiction and should be taken that way. ForRespectfully, I think it has more impact than that. I think it does a
> those who do not know
> the original story, it might have some impact that evil does not
good job of showing Buddhism from the outside. It shows wrong view
and the result of wrong view; it shows how wonderful the Lord Buddha
was without involving Him directly in the movie. It shows how pure is
the going-forth into monkhood. The one thing I was not impressed with
was Angulimala's soliloquy at the end, where he says that all beings
come from the same source and when we die, we return to the same
source. He says that suffering comes from thinking we are seperate
entities. To be fair, it sounds like he is talking about the body,
which of course does return to the same source, but the whole "we are
one" thing seems more like the Upanisads than Buddhism...
Please tell me, can you make out the words to the music in the