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RE: [Pali] Re: International Dhamma Research Tool

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  • Michael Olds
    Hello Rett, Thanks for the informative reply. I do not have this work ... I have been trying to get a copy for some time now with no luck...no responses even!
    Message 1 of 7 , Nov 28, 2004
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      Hello Rett,

      Thanks for the informative reply. I do not have this work ... I have been
      trying to get a copy for some time now with no luck...no responses even!

      It is certainly worth studying.

      I suspect that my suggested outline will be largely ignored except for the
      portion relating to the Dhamma itself. I have had to work with these various
      sorts of materials on a daily basis for several years, and the scheme I have
      provided has this advantage: it's easy to work with.

      Placing commentary under or within the Dhamma sections:

      I am aiming for a design that is what I would call modular. Breaking things
      down into logical units that can be used or not without much if any editing.
      In addition, I have mentioned the idea that I believe even our file
      structures should be lessons in the dhamma and throwing in the commentary
      like that will surly result in confusion as to what is and what is not
      'cannon'. I understand this is a Theravada group, but not everyone trusts
      the commentaries. I feel it is a happier solution to place all commentary,
      ancient or modern, under the heading of DhammaTalk. Under that heading there
      could then be sections for teachers to expound their views without 'messing
      up' the Suttas. Even here I think it is important to remember the Buddha's
      instruction that we do not accept anything that is not consistant with
      sutta; my scheme demonstrates in a small way the need for separation.

      Take Care;
      and may your life be long and happy!
      Michael Olds

      -----Original Message-----
      From: rett [mailto:rett@...]
      Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 10:30 AM
      To: Pali@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: RE: [Pali] Re: International Dhamma Research Tool



      Hi Mike,

      >
      >CPD = ? Concise Pali Dictionary ? which we would find where?
      >
      >What's wrong with the structure I am suggesting? It has this advantage:
      with
      >small changes, it is currently in use at ATI (and in what I am doing)...not
      >that that should be the determining factor, which should be clarity.

      As far as I can tell the CPD (Critical Pali Dictionary) scheme
      doesn't directly compete with large parts of the one you proposed,
      since yours also makes place for Dhamma talks and other articles than
      the original literature. The CPD is a way of organizing the Pali
      literature only (and some relevant Sanskrit literature).

      I haven't seen the whole scheme (which I believe is explained in the
      first fascicle of the CPD) only the parts cited in the Index Locorum
      of Helmer Smith's Saddaniiti edition. Still, that's quite a lot of
      material. From there,it's apparent that:

      1.x.x Vinaya
      2.x.x Suttapi.taka and paracanonical
      3.x.x Abhidhammapi.taka
      4.x.x.Later poetry (chronicles)
      5.x.x Grammatical and lexicographical treatises
      6.x.x Sanskrit Grammatical and lexicographical works
      etc

      As you can see, it roughly follows the standard divisions. What is
      interesting is that commentarial literature is grouped under the main
      text to which each item belongs.

      1.1 Paatimokkha
      1.1,1 Ka.mkhaavitara.nii
      1.1,12 Vinayatthama┬┤njuusaa
      1.2 Vinayapitaka
      1.2,1 Samantapaasaadikaa1.2,11 Vajirabuhhi.tiikaa

      2.5.x Khuddakanikaaya

      2.5.2 Dhammapada
      2.5.2,1 Dhammapada.t.thakathaa
      2.5.3 Udaana
      2.5.3,1 Paramatthadiipanii
      .
      .
      .
      2.6 Milindapa┬┤nha

      5.1 Kaccaayanapakara.na
      5.1,1 Kaccayanavutti
      5.1,2 Kaccaayanasuttaniddesa
      .
      .
      .
      5.1,4 Mahaaruupasiddhi
      5.1,41 Ruupasiddhi.tiikaa

      There might be faults with this system. It might even have been
      superceded. But since such a lot of work has been put into a
      hierarchical classification scheme for the entire corpus of Pali
      literature,it seems at least worth considering, before deciding on a
      system.

      best regards,

      /Rett



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