Pali equivalent ?
- Does anybody know if there is a Pali equivalent to kautuka-ma`ngala-vaada,
one of the many false views critiqued by the Buddha ? I suspect not, but I
may be wrong as I am not sure what the Pali for "kautuka" would be.
- Stephen Hodge wrote:
> Does anybody know if there is a Pali equivalent toHi Stephen,
> one of the many false views critiqued by the Buddha ?
Sanskrit kau should be ko or kava in Pali, but I don't think there is
a kotuka- (or kavatuka-) ma`ngala-vaada in the Pali texts.
Does the term refer to the belief in fortune (or omens) rather than
kamma? If so, then I expect it would be derived from the
kotuuhala-ma`ngalika mentioned in the Ca.n.daala Sutta (A iii 206).
Pañcahi, bhikkhave, dhammehi samannaagato upaasako upaasakaca.n.daalo
ca hoti upaasakamalañca upaasakapatiku.t.tho ca. Katamehi pañcahi?
Assaddho hoti; dussiilo hoti; kotuuhalama`ngaliko hoti, ma`ngala.m
pacceti no kamma.m; ito ca bahiddhaa dakkhi.neyya.m gavesati; tattha
ca pubbakaara.m karoti.
Kotuuhalama`ngaliko' ti "iminaa ida.m bhavissatii" ti eva.m
pavattattaa kotuuhalasa`nkhaatena di.t.thasutamutama'ngalena
samannaagato. 'Ma`ngala.m pacceti no kamman' ti ma`ngala.m oloketi,
kamma.m na oloketi.
"Iminaa di.t.thaadinaa ida.m naama ma`ngala.m bhavissatii" ti eva.m
- Dhammanando Bhikkhu wrote:
> Does the term refer to the belief in fortune (or omens) rather thanThank you, bhante, for the reference. Yes, this looks as if it is the same
> kamma? If so, then I expect it would be derived from the
> kotuuhala-ma`ngalika mentioned in the Ca.n.daala Sutta (A iii 206).
term under a slihhtly different guise. As you suggest, it refers to the
belief that one's experiences are determinded by omens and similar instead
of karma. My passage says:
"... and all those which accord with the theories concerning auspicious
omens, namely those which claim to generate auspicious omens and clear away
harm with regards the acquisition of an object of desire by means of the
spells and burnt-offerings of astrologers and diviners, and similarly those
which claim to bring about auspicious and inauspicious omens."
Of course, it is surprising how strong this belief remains today among many
members of soceity.