Re: [Pali] SN: puzzling suttas about monks lying
This is the Laabha,sakkaara Sa.myutta (S 2:233 ff).
"Ven. KUMARA Bhikkhu" wrote:
> Frank, could you be more specific as to where in SN that quotation is found?
> Ven K
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> From: frank kuan <fcckuan@...>
> To: Frank Kuan <fcckuan@...>
> Sent: Wednesday, 05 September, 2001 12:22 AM
> Subject: [Pali] SN: puzzling suttas about monks lying
> > There's a section of suttas (repetitive with minor
> > variations) in Samyutta that goes something like this:
> > Buddha: With my ability to emcompass the minds of
> > others with my own mind (i.e. mind reading), I noticed
> > that one of you virtuous monks in this assembly who
> > would not tell a deliberate lie for a silver bowl
> > filled with gold, or tell a lie to save the life of
> > your own mother, has told a lie for the sake of
> > reputation, fame, and honor.
> > -=======================
> > Does anyone know SPECIFICS? Like exactly what the lie
> > is? From the commentary notes, it looks like the
> > motivation would be to have fame among lay supporters
> > so they could be invited more often and for better
> > quality of food, robes, offered.
> > I'm really curious to know exactly what kind of lie,
> > and how subtle the lie, and how subtle their
> > motivation these monks used in seeking
> > fame/honor/reputation.
> > I'm short on time at the moment, but if necessary I
> > can look up exact page numbers and section numbers in
> > the next couple of days.
> > -fk
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