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Re: [Pali] Skilful ways to learn Pali

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  • Ong Yong Peng
    Hi Dimitry, the information you provide are interesting and useful. Thanks. Personally, I feel a good way of learning a new language is through practising and
    Message 1 of 3 , Aug 3, 2001
      Hi Dimitry,

      the information you provide are interesting and useful. Thanks.

      Personally, I feel a good way of learning a new language is through practising and interacting with a group. A group likes ours may suffice for the learning of Pali since its restricted usage is reading and writing only. For other languages, I would suggest a group that can meet up and practise speaking and listening skills.

      I agree that it is hard to memorise the declensions, I believe that it is due to a lack of practise. My observation is that most books try to introduce noun declension and verb conjugation along each other. That may be difficult for most people. I prefer to focus on one "noun group" first (usually masc noun ending in a), build up a good understanding and uses of the different cases, work on the tenses and conjugations, then go back to the other "noun groups" and the other aspects of grammar. (By the way, is there a technical word for "noun group"?)

      I understand that most of the Pali nouns are masc-a, so knowing the declensions of the group by heart is important. Furthermore, declensions of other groups are based on the "masc-a" group. As for the rest, I think we can memorise or familiarise them slowly as we practise. In this case, a self-prepared table will be useful for quick reference.

      metta,
      Yong Peng.


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    • ������� ��������� (Dimitry Ivakhnenko)
      Hi Yong Peng, OYP Personally, I feel a good way of learning a new language is OYP through practising and interacting with a group. A group likes OYP ours
      Message 2 of 3 , Aug 3, 2001
        Hi Yong Peng,

        OYP> Personally, I feel a good way of learning a new language is
        OYP> through practising and interacting with a group. A group likes
        OYP> ours may suffice for the learning of Pali since its restricted
        OYP> usage is reading and writing only. For other languages, I would
        OYP> suggest a group that can meet up and practise speaking and
        OYP> listening skills.

        Probably in the future we may start communicating in Pali, using basic
        dictionary and grammar, and English transliterations for more rare
        words.

        OYP> I understand that most of the Pali nouns are masc-a, so knowing
        OYP> the declensions of the group by heart is important. Furthermore,
        OYP> declensions of other groups are based on the "masc-a" group. As
        OYP> for the rest, I think we can memorise or familiarise them slowly
        OYP> as we practise. In this case, a self-prepared table will be
        OYP> useful for quick reference.

        Hopefully we will implement this approach while studying Pali Primer.

        I understand the value of self-prepared tables, however sometimes more
        comprehensive ones are needed. Particularly I am looking for the
        tables of irregular verb and noun forms, and comprehensive tables of
        declension and conjugation. I have heard that tables in Warder
        textbook and 'Pali Workbook' by Lynn Martineau
        http://www.vrpa.com/workbook.htm are very helpful.

        I'll be most obliged if you will place such tables on 'Pali Companion'
        website.

        Or have I missed something and such tables are already available on
        some website?

        Metta,
        Dimitry
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