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Skilful ways to learn Pali

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  • ������� ��������� (Dimitry Ivakhnenko)
    Dear friends, Learning Pali, I find that sometimes I don t remember the words I already learned, and declension paradigms are not easy to remember. Have
    Message 1 of 3 , Aug 1, 2001
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      Dear friends,

      Learning Pali, I find that sometimes I don't remember the words I already
      learned, and declension paradigms are not easy to remember.

      Have someone found skilful ways to memorize words and declensions?

      Recently I tried a method when you read a Pali text while vividly
      imagining every word of it as a 3-dimensional video. It really helps
      and afterwards I can freely use the words imagined.

      It also helps to imagine the words in big shining and glowing letters
      with appropriate pronuncuation sound and relevant picture. However I
      just start to use such methods.

      Below are some links which can prove useful in this regard. If you are
      interested in this topic, let's share our discoveries on how to make
      language learning easy and natural.

      Mind Tools - Memory Techniques - Learning Foreign Languages
      http://www.demon.co.uk/mindtool/forlangu.html

      Memorizing vocabulary words
      http://www.premiumhealth.com/memory/vocab.htm

      Learning a Foreign Language
      http://www.happychild.org.uk/acc/tpr/mem/0102lang.htm
      http://www.happychild.org.uk/acc/tpr/mem/0499mmap.htm
      http://www.happychild.org.uk/acc/tpr/mem/0299lang.htm

      Metta,
      Dimitry
    • Ong Yong Peng
      Hi Dimitry, the information you provide are interesting and useful. Thanks. Personally, I feel a good way of learning a new language is through practising and
      Message 2 of 3 , Aug 3, 2001
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        Hi Dimitry,

        the information you provide are interesting and useful. Thanks.

        Personally, I feel a good way of learning a new language is through practising and interacting with a group. A group likes ours may suffice for the learning of Pali since its restricted usage is reading and writing only. For other languages, I would suggest a group that can meet up and practise speaking and listening skills.

        I agree that it is hard to memorise the declensions, I believe that it is due to a lack of practise. My observation is that most books try to introduce noun declension and verb conjugation along each other. That may be difficult for most people. I prefer to focus on one "noun group" first (usually masc noun ending in a), build up a good understanding and uses of the different cases, work on the tenses and conjugations, then go back to the other "noun groups" and the other aspects of grammar. (By the way, is there a technical word for "noun group"?)

        I understand that most of the Pali nouns are masc-a, so knowing the declensions of the group by heart is important. Furthermore, declensions of other groups are based on the "masc-a" group. As for the rest, I think we can memorise or familiarise them slowly as we practise. In this case, a self-prepared table will be useful for quick reference.

        metta,
        Yong Peng.


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      • ������� ��������� (Dimitry Ivakhnenko)
        Hi Yong Peng, OYP Personally, I feel a good way of learning a new language is OYP through practising and interacting with a group. A group likes OYP ours
        Message 3 of 3 , Aug 3, 2001
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          Hi Yong Peng,

          OYP> Personally, I feel a good way of learning a new language is
          OYP> through practising and interacting with a group. A group likes
          OYP> ours may suffice for the learning of Pali since its restricted
          OYP> usage is reading and writing only. For other languages, I would
          OYP> suggest a group that can meet up and practise speaking and
          OYP> listening skills.

          Probably in the future we may start communicating in Pali, using basic
          dictionary and grammar, and English transliterations for more rare
          words.

          OYP> I understand that most of the Pali nouns are masc-a, so knowing
          OYP> the declensions of the group by heart is important. Furthermore,
          OYP> declensions of other groups are based on the "masc-a" group. As
          OYP> for the rest, I think we can memorise or familiarise them slowly
          OYP> as we practise. In this case, a self-prepared table will be
          OYP> useful for quick reference.

          Hopefully we will implement this approach while studying Pali Primer.

          I understand the value of self-prepared tables, however sometimes more
          comprehensive ones are needed. Particularly I am looking for the
          tables of irregular verb and noun forms, and comprehensive tables of
          declension and conjugation. I have heard that tables in Warder
          textbook and 'Pali Workbook' by Lynn Martineau
          http://www.vrpa.com/workbook.htm are very helpful.

          I'll be most obliged if you will place such tables on 'Pali Companion'
          website.

          Or have I missed something and such tables are already available on
          some website?

          Metta,
          Dimitry
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