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  • Piya Tan
    Dear Jim, Excluding the CPD, which is very thorough and I hope will be completed within my lifetime. Sukhi. P ... From: To:
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      Dear Jim,

      Excluding the CPD, which is very thorough and I hope will be completed
      within my lifetime.

      Sukhi.

      P
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: <jimanderson_on@...>
      To: <Pali@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Saturday, 22 February, 2003 9:20 AM
      Subject: [Pali] Re: sutta reference industry standard


      > Dear Piya,
      >
      > --- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, "Piya Tan" <libris@s...> wrote:
      > > Dear Jim,
      > >
      > > I've simplified and adapted the academic Pali text convetions for
      > my own use
      > > which I find very convention. I find the "industry standard" change
      > every
      > > academic tenure or so. As such, we are on our own so to speak as
      > far as
      > > conventions apply, but some commons sense standard helps. Authors
      > usually
      > > give the key to the conventions they use at the beginning or the
      > end of
      > > their works.
      >
      > I disagree with your statement that <quote> the "industry standard"
      > change every academic tenure or so. <endquote> The CPD standard that
      > I'm referring to was already well-established in 1924 and little has
      > changed since then apart from the addition of new abbreviations for
      > the texts later added to its bibliography. What I have noticed,
      > however, is the shift away from the PTS standard towards the CPD
      > standard by leading academic scholars, editors, and translators in
      > the publications of the PTS over the past decade or so -- K.R.
      > Norman, Peter Masefield, Margaret Cone, P. Pecenko, to name a few.
      > Many of the abbreviations used for the canonical texts happen to be
      > the same so one doesn't see much difference there. It's mostly to do
      > with how the post-canonical texts are abbreviated, I think.
      >
      > > However, through years of key-punching and writing I find it easier
      > to write
      > > D rather than DN for Diigha Nikaaya and so one. One reason is when
      > I have to
      > > quote the Commentaries, I would rather use the DA than DNA (?) or
      > DN-A or D
      > > Comy.
      >
      > Although the CPD started off with DN, it now uses the single letter.
      > The CPD uses Sv (for Suma"ngalavilaasinii) instead of DA.
      > Incidentally, there doesn't seem to be a widely-accepted standard
      > abbreviation for "commentary". CPD uses Ct. and I saw where Norman
      > uses cty, and Comy is another one that seems to be in use.
      >
      > > I think the obiquitous hyphens in the UKABS convention are
      > redundant and
      > > tedious.
      >
      > The hyphen is often used in the CPD standard abbreviations for
      > commentaries and subcommentaries, eg. Khp-a, Sv-p.t, Pa.tis-a, etc.
      >
      > > I find the simplest and briefest abbreviations helpful, sort of
      > Okcham's
      > > razor ("Entities are not to be multiplied beyond necessity"),
      > especially
      > > when Buddhism ultimately reject "entities". As such, sometimes I do
      > lose
      > > touch with the convetion fashion.
      >
      > Of course, you're quite at liberty to pick and choose which
      > abbreviations you find suitable for your work. I was merely pointing
      > out what I consider to be the industry standard adopted by many in
      > the international body of Pali academics and one that I find
      > acceptable and also use. I'm also familiar with other schemes and
      > don't mind them at all.
      >
      > > Attached is the file for the convention I use.
      >
      > Unfortunately, I never received the attached file. I don't think this
      > mailing list allows attachments to go through. You could send me the
      > file off-list, if you wish.
      >
      > Thank-you for your feedback.
      >
      > Best wishes,
      >
      > Jim
      >
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