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Re: Q. Re: [Pali] bhava'nga - etymology -questions

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  • Brett Morris
    Dear Nina, Again this is all much appreciated. If you want to share any other such reference you come across they are, of course, most welcome. much metta,
    Message 1 of 12 , Oct 13, 2010
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      Dear Nina,
      Again this is all much appreciated. If you want to share any other such
      reference you come across they are, of course, most welcome.
      much metta,

      Brett




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      From: Nina van Gorkom <vangorko@...>
      To: Pali@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Wed, October 13, 2010 8:27:39 AM
      Subject: Re: Q. Re: [Pali] bhava'nga - etymology -questions


      Dear Brett,
      Op 12-okt-2010, om 16:39 heeft Brett Morris het volgende geschreven:

      > I am grateful for your time and answers. It all makes good sense. I
      > may have
      > some follow up questions in this area after some time of
      > researching and
      > processing:)
      ------
      N: You are welcome. Just now I am studying the Pali and Thai of the
      Yamaka commentary on the anusaya. It is interesting that you just
      asked, how the anusayas are also lying dormant in kusala citta and
      vipaakacitta. The text says: also in avyaakatacitta and this includes
      vipaakacitta and kiriyacitta. It is asked all the time kasmaa: why.
      People at that time were also wondering, not only you and I at this
      moment.
      At the moment of akusala citta with sensuous desire, the latent
      tendency of sensuous desire conditions its arising. Then the citta
      falls away and the accumulation of the latent tendency of sense
      desire continues. This cannot be said at the moment of kusala citta
      and vipaakacitta. Then the anusayas do not condition the arising of
      akusala at such moments. Still, they are lying dormant in these
      cittas and this is so because they have not been eradicated yet. I
      enjoy studying the Pali of all these texts.

      Text: < The latent tendencies lie dormant because the defilements
      have not been eradicated. A person endowed with kusala citta or
      avyåkata citta is called a person with attachment, aversion and
      ignorance, since these have not been eradicated by the maggacitta.
      The latentent tendencies lie dormant in the case of that person, also
      at the moment of pa.tisandhicitta , because they have not been
      eradicated by the magga-citta. The Buddha did not merely say that the
      latent tendencies lie dormant, but it should be understood that they
      lie dormant because they cannot yet been eradicated. >

      Pali: <anusayaa ca akusalacittakkha.ne uppajjanti,
      na vipaakacittakkha.neti tasmi.m kha.ne anuppajjanato tathaa attho na
      gahetabbo. katha.m pana gahetabboti? yathaa labbhati tathaa gahetabbo.
      katha~nca labbhati? appahiina.t.thena. yathaa hi raagadosamohaana.m
      appahiinattaa. kusalaabyaakatacittasama"ngii puggalo ``saraago sadoso
      samoho''ti vuccati, eva.m maggabhaavanaaya appahiinattaa
      pa.tisandhikkha.nepi
      tassa tassa puggalassa te te anusayaa anusentiiti vuccanti. na
      kevala~nca
      vuccanti, appahiinattaa pana te anusentiyeva naamaati veditabbaa.>

      *******
      Nina.

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