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Re[2]: [Pali] Nimitta in jhana

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  • ������� ���������� ��������� (Dimitry A.
    Dear Nina, NvG Just a remark about ruupasa~n~nii : does this not refer to ruupajhaana, NvG whereas aruupasa~n~nii refers to aruupajhaana? Thank you for this
    Message 1 of 8 , Nov 7 3:20 AM
      Dear Nina,

      NvG> Just a remark about ruupasa~n~nii : does this not refer to ruupajhaana,
      NvG> whereas aruupasa~n~nii refers to aruupajhaana?

      Thank you for this remark.

      Earlier I replied to this:

      > The kasinas allow to attain only form jhanas, and in the cited sutta
      > DN 33, MN 77 there is a clear reference to aruupasa~n~nii with colour
      > kasinas. Moreover, after this stage and the stage of 'subha' proper
      > aruupa jhanas are described. Thus 'aruupasa~n~nii' here should mean
      > something else.

      In fact my arguments were faulty. First eight kasinas allow to attain
      all jhanas.

      It seems that eight vimokkhas are classified by object:

      1. Form jhana on kasinas;
      2. Formless jhana on kasinas;
      3. Brahma viharas;
      4. Space;
      5. Consciousness;
      6. Nothingness;
      7. Neither-perception-non-nonperception;
      8. Cessation of apperception and feeling.

      Best wishes,
      Dimitry
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