Re: [Pali] Re: The New Pali Course Part II [3-8/8]
- Dear Jon Fernquest,
It is very interesting what you wrote about philosophical aspect of Pali Grammar regarding the relation between language and the world described. I have often speculated on this topic, but I've never encountered more explicit information about the viewpoint of the Buddhist tradition itself on these matters. Unfortunately I can't obtain this book by Stephen Collins, that's why I would be very grateful if you could provide these examples from the sentences he quotes, as you kindly offer.
Thank you in advance.
--- On Sun, 12/21/08, Jon Fernquest <bayinnaung@...> wrote:
From: Jon Fernquest <bayinnaung@...>
Subject: [Pali] Re: The New Pali Course Part II [3-8/8]
Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 7:40 PM
Dear Yong Peng and all;
Here is a link to the publisher's page of the Steven Collins book:
http://www.silkworm books.com/ each_titles/ e_buddhism/ pali.htm
(This book is very easy to buy in Bangkok.
For example, the new Silkworm Books branch
at the Siam Society at Asoke station or at the
Judging from studying many of the example sentences, Pali grammar also
seems to have a philosophical aspect to it, how the descriptions given
by language relate to the world described, a sort of metaphysics or
semantics. (I can provide examples from the sentences Collins quotes).
In Burma Pali works focused on grammar and Abhidhamma.
gdbedell: "...the Paali grammarians did not set out to write the
grammar of Paali on the basis of primary data (the canon); rather they
formulated rules based on those given in Sanskrit grammars and then
searched for relevant examples in the canon."
I wonder how commentary writers used formal Pali grammar rules in
interpreting ambiguous passages? Or how committees of monks editing
definitive editions of the Tipitaka or how translators used it when
faced with difficult points of grammar?
BTW has anyone ever seen "Kachchayano' s Pali grammar with Chrestomathy
and Vocabulary" by Francis Mason, D.D., Toungoo, Burma, 1868? Does
this work actually reflect Kaccayana's Pali grammar?
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- Dear Jim,
I am glad you find the resource beneficial. The OpenLibrary only
contains publications in the public domain, on the other hand, Google
Books teamed up with many publishers to offer copyrighted materials
for view online.
Both are worthy and valuable projects for any student and book lovers.
--- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, Jim Anderson wrote:
Thank-you very much for the link (openlibrary.org). This is the first
time I'd heard of it and it is certainly a great resource for us Pali
students. They currently list 113 downloadable books having Pali in
the titles. Many of the classics are included such as Senart's work on
Kaccaayana and Childer's Pali dictionary. They also list 2101 other
Pali books but not available for downloading or reading online. I knew
about Clough's and D'Alwis's works but had no idea that so many other
Pali books have come online as well. It's really quite overwhelming
and I'll be spending a good part of my winter downloading these books
to add to my collection.
> Clough - http://openlibrary.org/b/OL6534987M
> D'Alwis - http://openlibrary.org/b/OL14015171M
> http://openlibrary.org/search?q=pali (click Available on the