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SV: [Pali] Re: Suttanta

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  • mahasacham
    Thanks nina for your answer on the abhidhamma enumeration mettacittena ... persons, ... a ... are ... first ... the ... the ... Suttanta ... vipaakacitta. ...
    Message 1 of 14 , Jul 4, 2007
      \Thanks nina for your answer on the abhidhamma enumeration

      --- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, Nina van Gorkom <vangorko@...> wrote:
      > Dear Johnny,
      > In the Suttanta we read that the Buddha explained the Dhamma to
      > different people at different places and adapted his way of
      > explanation to the dispositions of people. He spoke about
      > living beings. Through the Abhidhamma we learn that what we call
      > person or being are mental phenomena and physical phenomena which
      > non-self.
      > We read in the 'Expositor' (the Co. to the Dhammasangani, the
      > book of the Abhidhamma), p. 3,4 that Abhi is used in the sense of
      > preponderance and distinction.
      > Also in the Suttanta there is the teaching of Abhidhamma, such as
      > teaching about the khandhas, the elements, the aayatanas, but in
      > Abhidhamma these are classified in more detail. Also in the
      > the Buddha taught about kamma and vipaaka, but in the Abhidhamma
      > these are taught in more detail. We learn about all the different
      > kinds of volition and about all the different kinds of
      > We learn about all the different cetasikas that acompany citta.
      > learn about the twentyfour classes of conditions by which
      > are related to each other.
      > In the Suttanta the Buddha taught about the Paticca Samuppada,
      > when we apply the twentyfour conditions to this teaching, we gain
      > deeper understanding of the links of the Paticca Samuppada, and
      > the ways by which each link condiitons the following link.
      > In the Suttanta we receive strong reminders in brief to cultivate
      > kusala, avoid akusala and purify the mind. Such impressive
      > are most helpful. If we, next to the Suttanta also study the
      > Abhidhamma we receive great support so that we come to know
      > what kusala is and what akusala. We also learn that what we used
      > take for kusala and noble conduct is in fact often akusala. We
      > about the deep underlying motives of our actions and speech. We
      > what we did not know before.
      > When a person speaks harsh words to us we are likely to blame the
      > other person as the cause of our unhappiness. Through the
      > we learn about the real causes of the events of life. Hearing an
      > unpleasant sound is vipaakacitta, the result of kamma performed
      > the past. Unhappy feeling is akusala, and this arises due to the
      > latent tendency of dosa that has been accumulated. Thus, when we
      > apply the Abhidhamma we do not blame others but we know that we
      > ourselves are at fault.
      > The teaching of the Vinaya, Suttanta and Abhidhamma is one
      > and we can profit from each part of the teachings, we need them
      > This does not mean that everybody should study the whole of the
      > Abhidhamma, but a basic understanding of some details is most
      > helpful. It helps us to gain more understanding of the deep
      > of the Suttanta.
      > Johnny, your question deserves a more extensive answer, but I am
      > going on a trip.
      > Nina.
      > Op 22-jun-2007, om 2:13 heeft johnny pruitt het volgende
      > > What is the difference between the suttanta method of
      > > and the abhidhamma method of enumeration.
      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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