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  • S Turkman
    FACTS: 1. Dr. Ishratul Ibad Khan of MQM, who even MQM considered to be an independent, not following orders of its leader and a neutral leader was Governor of
    Message 1 of 4 , Sep 16, 2013
      FACTS:

      1. Dr.
      Ishratul Ibad Khan of MQM, who even MQM considered to be an independent, not following orders of its leader and a neutral leader was Governor of Sindh for the last decade because PPP had agreed with MQM that he was neutral.

      2. MQM top Leader Syed Altaf Hussain had wanted Pak Military to come in and save MQM Workers and Mohajirs from Taliban Target killing in Karachi and rest of Urban Sindh.

      3.  His purpose of asking for what's explained in # 2 above could be that if Pak Military failed to accomplish this, it would be exposed to World that its the Employer of Taliban and other Terrorist JehaaDi Groups of Pakistan. ... If there is anybody that can prove me wrong, please come forward ...!

      4. Pak Military knew this so, it backed out but sent Pakistan Military Rangers that are a part of it but their Salaries are paid out of Civilian Budget because it claims Rangers are not a part of it.

      5. Whenever Rangers are deployed in any Province that Province has to pay their Salaries, not the Federal Government though the Provincial Government is not allowed to monitor, what they do in its Province.

      6. A Pak Military senior General called Corps Commander runs Pakistan Rangers and none of such previous Generals of Rangers have been ever answerable to Provincial Government for anything, which proves, they are above Laws of Pakistan's Civilian Governments. 

      7. In past, Provincial Police was just a branch of 'Pakistan Police' controlled by Islamabad and this is why 90% of it was Punjabi since PakEstablishment is Punjabi. ... If there is anybody that can prove me wrong, please come forward ...!

      8. In late 1990's, Sindh Police was allowed to hire on its own but even for job of ordinary Policeman, Non Punjabis had to pay a Bribe of Rs. 15,000 to the all Punjabi Establishment of Sindh Police. If there is anybody that can prove me wrong, please come forward ...!

      9. In Zardari days, a lot of Pro PPP or Sindhis were hired without any Bribes but not Mohajirs.

      10. When Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif learned, how many Policemen were hired by PPP Government of Sindh he was surprised though he was never surprised before, when 90% of Policemen hired in Pakistan that used to be of his own Ethnic Punjabis and were deputed in Non Punjabi Provinces. If there is anybody that can prove me wrong, please come forward ...!

      11. It has been alleged that PPP had hired known Criminals as Policemen by Mr. Sharif's people in Karachi though no Evidence has been provided so far. 

      12. Civilians Governments of Provinces used to have no control over Police of their own Province but in Zardari Days in Sindh, Police was ordered to arrest Taliban that ISI had never permitted it to arrest. 

      13. When Taliban were arrested and ISI had found out about them, Police was told to drop charges and scared to hell of Pak Military, this is what Police did. If there is anybody that can prove me wrong, please come forward ...!

      14. When ISI had no knowledge of Taliban arrest or local SHO did not obey its orders, the Judges were threatened. If there is anybody that can prove me wrong, please come forward ...!

      15. When Judges did not obey ISI orders, their Daughters were abducted and raped, if they had no Daughters, one of their Sons was shot dead, if they had no Son, their Brother or one of their Brothers was shot dead.

      16. When a Judge did not care and still served the justice, he himself was shot dead.

      17. ISI did not care. Even if a former General disobeyed and did not heed its warning, same action was taken against him. Example? Gen. Syed Moinuddin Haider. Governor of Sindh and the Interior Minister of Pakistan under Gen. Musharraf. His Brother was shot dead and assassination attempts were made on him more than once.

      18. What were the Crimes of Gen. Haider?

      a) He was Anti Islamic Extremism.
      b) He had ordered demolition of illegally built Offices of Taliban and other JehaaDi Groups in main Town Squares and cities of Pakistan, from where Armed Men were forcing people to pay money for their JehaaD and were recruiting more Men.
      c) He had ended illegal encroachment of Streets and other land that Punjabi Police was selling and or collecting Monthly Rent from in almost all cities and towns of Province Sindh, when he was Governor of Sindh.
      d) The Punjab run Establishment of Sindh and its Police had gone on strike protesting on his action described in c)  above and Police had stopped following orders of Judges. No Criminals were produced on Court Date breaking down the whole Judicial System of Sindh.
      e) Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif had sided with the Corrupt Establishment and Sindh Police, when he found out about it and dismissed Gen. Haider replacing him with a Mohajir, who knew nothing and was a Rubber Stamp Governor of Sindh for ISI and Islamabad Establishment. Now that man has been appointed as President of Pakistan by Mr. Nawaz Sharif. 

      If there is anybody that can prove me wrong, please come forward ...!

      19. If the reason of Gen. Haider's retirement from his Political Life are not, what I explained above could anybody explain,...
      .
      a) ...  why he was the first Interior Minister of Pakistan, who had to be dismissed because of Police and Pak Establishment had gone on strike against him in violation of Constitution of Pakistan by stop acting as a Body of the Structure of Pakistan?
      b) ... why no other Interior Minister of Pakistan was ever attacked like him by so called 'Unknown Terrorists', who were never caught and no Interior Minister of Pakistan had been attacked like him since then?
      c) ... why Brother of no other Interior Minister of Pakistan was ever attacked like him by so called 'Unknown Terrorists', who were never caught and no Interior Minister of Pakistan had been attacked like him since then?

      If there is anybody that can prove me wrong, please come forward ...!

      20. During Military and then Rangers Operation against MQM and Mohajirs in 1990's Benazir had fully co-operated with her Military Bosses because without that she could not remain in power and was such a Stooge of Punjabi Pak Military that she had called Mohajirs, 'Rats' in one of her Speeches published in all Newspapers of Pakistan.

      21. It was not until Pak Military realized that its false propaganda against Mohajirs and their killing of 14,000 Mohajirs, which had included Rapes of their Daughters and Looting did not work because USA, Canada and all countries of Western Europe had granted Political Asylum to Mohajirs that Operation against them had almost slowed down to a halt after 1999, when one of the Mohajir Generals came in power with help of PushToon Generals in General Headquarter or (GHQ) or Pak Army.

      22. After Gen. Musharraf's becoming the Big Boss of Pakistan, out of Thin Air, Pak Establishment had provided Municipal Government of Karachi to fix and repair all the streets of his old Neighborhood in Nazimabad, Karachi within a week. It explains, how corrupt Punjab Run Bureaucracy of Pakistan works. 

      If there is anybody that can prove me wrong, please come forward ...!

      23. As I understand, ISI a renegade Agency of Pak Army with more power than GHQ or Pak Military because of Love of Allah and Islam of rest of Pak Military had made a few Assassination Attempts on Gen. Musharraf but he was lucky (because he had double Life Line in his Palm, if anybody believes in Palmistry) to survive every such attempt but the blame went to Islamic Extremists that Pak Military kept claiming, it had nothing to do with it but the problem is that Taliban or any JehaaDi Religious Groups living off Pak Military have been blamed for those attacks. If there is anybody that can prove me wrong, please come forward ...!

      24. As Logic and Reason rules my Brain, I believe, Benazir Bhutto was assassinate by ISI but now ISI running Pakistan from behind the curtain of Staged Democracy has blamed its own crime on Gen. Musharraf and wants him hanged because he had landed back in Pakistan trying to straighten out his nation by running in Election. If there is anybody that can prove me wrong, please come forward ...!

      25. I believe, ISI had found its would be Stooge in former Chief Justice Iftikhar Choudry (a Punjabi from Baluchistan), who was dismissed by Gen. Musharraf so, he has been doing, whatever Punjabi Pak Military tells him to do. The Proof is, so very active on its own without any complaints filed, the Pak Supreme has never make any Army Officials to stand trial for anything. It only indicts Politicians, Technocrats and Bureaucrats of Pakistan that seem to be disliked by Pak Military. So, former President of Pakistan and its own Non Punjabi General is now a Criminal facing Death Sentence as an example of just Democracy and Justice System of Pakistan staged by Pak Military just to keep getting Charity of Aid and Loans from the rich countries of World and IMF. If there is anybody that can prove me wrong, please come forward ...! 

      26. Governor Khan had made the right decision to resign after reaching outside Pakistan because had he done that remaining in Pakistan, he would have been shot dead or arrested on some alleged Crime on orders of Pakistan Supreme Court. By accusing Federal Government of sleeping with Punjabi Racist Military Mafia in UAE, he exposed, how Pakistan is being run but since it was going to become a huge problem for Punjabi Pak Military, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has intervened by promising him that he would be controlling the Pak Military Rangers Operations and the Police in his Province. 

      The Question I ask Mr. Elected Prime Minister of Pakistan is, how come Governors of the other 2 Non Punjabi Provinces do not have the same rights as Governor Khan of Sindh and why Governors of Baluchistan and PakhToon Khah can not stop Military Operations against their Anti Pakistan and Anti Taliban Tribes and citizens of Pakistan?
      I understand, either Nawaz Sharif wants to save Pakistan or he is diplomatically working to reduce power of Pakistan Military but I find no evidence that he really understands, where he stands and what Pakistan is.
      .
      If there is anybody that can prove me wrong, please come forward ...! 

      And then, I ask Obama, who won US Election propagating to Americans and rest of world that he was going to be the 'Leader of Change' for supporting such an apartheid country of Pakistan by more Charity of Aid and Loans than any other country of world in his tenure.

    • S Turkman
      I forgot to mention, what happens if a Judge really sends Taliban to Jail. All of them are put in same Jail and then they become free, when ISI breaks that
      Message 2 of 4 , Sep 17, 2013
        I forgot to mention, what happens if a Judge really sends Taliban to Jail.
        All of them are put in same Jail and then they become free, when ISI breaks that Jail. Jail Breaks are a new Phenomena in Pakistan and are caused by ISI to free its Employees, Taliban and other JehaaDis.
        Proof?
        1. Jail Breaks never used to take place in Pakistan.
        2. They started happening only after Taliban had started getting incarcerated to Jail.
        3. Jail Breaks take place only, where in Jails that have Taliban Prisoners.

        From: S Turkman <turkman@...>


        FACTS:

        1. Dr.
        Ishratul Ibad Khan of MQM, who even MQM considered to be an independent, not following orders of its leader and a neutral leader was Governor of Sindh for the last decade because PPP had agreed with MQM that he was neutral.

        2. MQM top Leader Syed Altaf Hussain had wanted Pak Military to come in and save MQM Workers and Mohajirs from Taliban Target killing in Karachi and rest of Urban Sindh.

        3.  His purpose of asking for what's explained in # 2 above could be that if Pak Military failed to accomplish this, it would be exposed to World that its the Employer of Taliban and other Terrorist JehaaDi Groups of Pakistan. ... If there is anybody that can prove me wrong, please come forward ...!

        4. Pak Military knew this so, it backed out but sent Pakistan MilitaryRangers that are a part of it but their Salaries are paid out of Civilian Budget because it claims Rangers are not a part of it.

        5. Whenever Rangers are deployed in any Province that Province has to pay their Salaries, not the Federal Government though the Provincial Government is not allowed to monitor, what they do in its Province.

        6. A Pak Military senior General called Corps Commander runs Pakistan Rangers and none of such previous Generals of Rangers have been ever answerable to Provincial Government for anything, which proves, they are above Laws of Pakistan's Civilian Governments. 

        7. In past, Provincial Police was just a branch of 'Pakistan Police' controlled by Islamabad and this is why 90% of it was Punjabi since Pak Establishment is Punjabi. ... If there is anybody that can prove me wrong, please come forward ...!

        8. In late 1990's, Sindh Police was allowed to hire on its own but even for job of ordinary Policeman, Non Punjabis had to pay a Bribe of Rs. 15,000 to the all Punjabi Establishment of Sindh Police. If there is anybody that can prove me wrong, please come forward ...!

        9. In Zardari days, a lot of Pro PPP or Sindhis were hired without any Bribes but not Mohajirs.

        10. When Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif learned, how many Policemen were hired by PPP Government of Sindh he was surprised though he was never surprised before, when 90% of Policemen hired in Pakistan that used to be of his own Ethnic Punjabis and were deputed in Non Punjabi Provinces. If there is anybody that can prove me wrong, please come forward ...!

        11. It has been alleged that PPP had hired known Criminals as Policemen by Mr. Sharif's people in Karachi though no Evidence has been provided so far. 

        12. Civilians Governments of Provinces used to have no control over Police of their own Province but in Zardari Days in Sindh, Police was ordered to arrest Taliban that ISI had never permitted it to arrest. 

        13. When Taliban were arrested and ISI had found out about them, Police wastold to drop charges and scared to hell of Pak Military, this is what Police did. If there is anybody that can prove me wrong, please come forward ...!

        14. When ISI had no knowledge of Taliban arrest or local SHO did not obey its orders, the Judges were threatened. If there is anybody that can prove me wrong, please come forward ...!

        15. When Judges did not obey ISI orders, their Daughters were abducted and raped, if they had no Daughters, one of their Sons was shot dead, if they had no Son, their Brother or one of their Brothers was shot dead.

        16. When a Judge did not care and still served the justice, he himself was shot dead.

        17. ISI did not care. Even if a former General disobeyed and did not heed its warning, same action was taken against him. Example? Gen. Syed Moinuddin Haider. Governor of Sindh and the Interior Minister of Pakistan under Gen. Musharraf. His Brother was shot dead and assassination attempts were made on him more than once.

        18. What were the Crimes of Gen. Haider?

        a) He was Anti Islamic Extremism.
        b) He had ordered demolition of illegally built Offices of Taliban and other JehaaDi Groups in main Town Squares and cities of Pakistan, from where Armed Men were forcing people to pay money for their JehaaD and were recruiting more Men.
        c) He had ended illegal encroachment of Streets and other land that Punjabi Police was selling and or collecting Monthly Rent from in almost all cities and towns of Province Sindh, when he was Governor of Sindh.
        d) The Punjab run Establishment of Sindh and its Police had gone on strike protesting on his action described in c)  above and Police had stopped following orders of Judges. No Criminals were produced on Court Date breaking down the whole Judicial System of Sindh.
        e) Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif had sided with the Corrupt Establishment and Sindh Police, when he found out about it and dismissed Gen. Haider replacing him with a Mohajir, who knew nothing and was a Rubber Stamp Governor of Sindh for ISI and Islamabad Establishment. Now that man has been appointed as President of Pakistan by Mr. Nawaz Sharif. 

        If there is anybody that can prove me wrong, please come forward ...!

        19. If the reason of Gen. Haider's retirement from his Political Life are not, what I explained above could anybody explain,...
        .
        a) ...  why he was the first Interior Minister of Pakistan, who had to be dismissed because of Police and Pak Establishment had gone on strikeagainst him in violation of Constitution of Pakistan by stop acting as a Body of the Structure of Pakistan?
        b) ... why no other Interior Minister of Pakistan was ever attacked like him by so called 'Unknown Terrorists', who were never caught and no Interior Minister of Pakistan had been attacked like him since then?
        c) ... why Brother of no other Interior Minister of Pakistan was ever attacked like him by so called 'Unknown Terrorists', who were never caught and no Interior Minister of Pakistan had been attacked like him since then?

        If there is anybody that can prove me wrong, please come forward ...!

        20. During Military and then Rangers Operation against MQM and Mohajirs in 1990's Benazir had fully co-operated with her Military Bosses because without that she could not remain in power and was such a Stooge of Punjabi Pak Military that she had called Mohajirs, 'Rats' in one of her Speeches published in all Newspapers of Pakistan.

        21. It was not until Pak Military realized that its false propaganda against Mohajirs and their killing of 14,000 Mohajirs, which had included Rapes of their Daughters and Looting did not work because USA, Canada and all countries of Western Europe had granted Political Asylum to Mohajirs that Operation against them had almost slowed down to a halt after 1999, when one of the Mohajir Generals came in power with help of PushToon Generals in General Headquarter or (GHQ) or Pak Army.

        22. After Gen. Musharraf's becoming the Big Boss of Pakistan, out of Thin Air, Pak Establishment had provided Municipal Government of Karachi to fix and repair all the streets of his old Neighborhood in Nazimabad, Karachi within a week. It explains, how corrupt Punjab Run Bureaucracy of Pakistan works. 

        If there is anybody that can prove me wrong, please come forward ...!

        23. As I understand, ISI a renegade Agency of Pak Army with more power than GHQ or Pak Military because of Love of Allah and Islam of rest of Pak Military had made a few Assassination Attempts on Gen. Musharraf but he was lucky (because he had double Life Line in his Palm, if anybody believes in Palmistry) to survive every such attempt but the blame went to Islamic Extremists that Pak Military kept claiming, it had nothing to do with it but the problem is that Taliban or any JehaaDi Religious Groups living off Pak Military have been blamed for those attacks. If there is anybody that can prove me wrong, please come forward ...!

        24. As Logic and Reason rules my Brain, I believe, Benazir Bhutto was assassinate by ISI but now ISI running Pakistan from behind the curtain of Staged Democracy has blamed its own crime on Gen. Musharraf and wants him hanged because he had landed back in Pakistan trying to straighten out his nation by running in Election. If there is anybody that can prove me wrong, please come forward ...!

        25. I believe, ISI had found its would be Stooge in former Chief Justice Iftikhar Choudry (a Punjabi from Baluchistan), who was dismissed by Gen. Musharraf so, he has been doing, whatever Punjabi Pak Military tells him to do. The Proof is, so very active on its own without any complaints filed, the Pak Supreme has never make any Army Officials to stand trial for anything. It only indicts Politicians, Technocrats and Bureaucrats of Pakistan that seem to be disliked by Pak Military. So, former President of Pakistan and its own Non Punjabi General is now a Criminal facing Death Sentence as an example of just Democracy and Justice System of Pakistan staged by Pak Military just to keep getting Charity of Aid and Loans from the rich countries of World and IMF. If there is anybody that can prove me wrong, please come forward ...! 

        26. Governor Khan had made the right decision to resign after reachingoutside Pakistan because had he done that remaining in Pakistan, he would have been shot dead or arrested on some alleged Crime on orders of Pakistan Supreme Court. By accusing Federal Government of sleeping with Punjabi Racist Military Mafia in UAE, he exposed, how Pakistan is being run but since it was going to become a huge problem for Punjabi Pak Military, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has intervened by promising him that he would be controlling the Pak Military Rangers Operations and the Police in his Province. 

        The Question I ask Mr. Elected Prime Minister of Pakistan is, how come Governors of the other 2 Non Punjabi Provinces do not have the same rights as Governor Khan of Sindh and why Governors of Baluchistan and PakhToon Khah can not stop Military Operations against their Anti Pakistan and Anti Taliban Tribes and citizens of Pakistan?
        I understand, either Nawaz Sharif wants to save Pakistan or he is diplomatically working to reduce power of Pakistan Military but I find no evidence that he really understands, where he stands and what Pakistan is.
        .
        If there is anybody that can prove me wrong, please come forward ...! 

        And then, I ask Obama, who won US Election propagating to Americans and rest of world that he was going to be the 'Leader of Change' for supporting such an apartheid country of Pakistan by more Charity of Aid and Loans than any other country of world in his tenure.



      • S Turkman
        Spain: Supreme Court upholds ban on Islamic Veils Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:19 am (PDT) . Posted by: sitrep_comalp Catalan police to collect data on
        Message 3 of 4 , Sep 18, 2013

          Spain: Supreme Court upholds ban on Islamic Veils

          Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:19 am (PDT) . Posted by:

          sitrep_comalp

          Catalan police to collect data on women in full-face veils
          Anti-terrorism measure
          28 August, 17:50

          A woman wearing a nqaab


          (ANSAmed) - MADRID, AUGUST 28 -

          The Catalan regional police Mossos d'Esquadra have come in for criticism after deciding to 'investigate' women wearing full-face veils or nqaabs. Catalan government spokesman Francesc Homs was quoted by the media as saying that the initiative aims to gather information to counter Islamic terrorism, but would not ''in any way'' infringe upon individual's basic rights.

          The police aim to get to know the environment in which women wearing full-face veils live and to ascertain the identity of husbands or parents, in order to check for potential signs of fundamentalist ideology. According to the local government office for internal affairs at the Generalitat, the data gathering is not part of a police record or databank, and the Mossos d'Esquadra have not been given any sort of guidelines on the matter, which would violate the constitutional right to freedom of religion.

          http://www.ansamed. info/ansamed/ en/news/sections /generalnews/ 2013/08/28/ Catalan-police- collect-data- women-full- face-veils_ 9210909.html




        • S Turkman
          Russian FM says China will send fleet off Syria Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:19 am (PDT) . Posted by: sitrep_comalp (AGI) Moscow, Sept 15 - Russia s
          Message 4 of 4 , Sep 18, 2013

            Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:19 am (PDT) . Posted by:

            sitrep_comalp




            (AGI) Moscow, Sept 15 - Russia's Foreign Minister, Sergei Lavrov, announced that China will also be sending its naval forces to the Mediterranean. Minister Lavrov believes it is a 'comprehensible ' move. There are already U.S. French, Russian and British warships off Syrian shores. The Italian destroyer Andrea Doria is positioned off Libyan waters.

            http://www.agi. it/english- version/world/ elenco-notizie/ 201309150800- cro-ren1004- russian_fm_ says_china_ will_send_ fleet_off_ syria



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