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Re: Blatchford patent base

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  • parallel_imp
    ... They work exactly the same, though Blatchford advertised the ease of locking up plates the size of a dime because of the close spacing of smaller holes.
    Message 1 of 10 , Jul 5 11:25 AM
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      --- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, Lisa Davidson
      <lisaxdavidson@...> wrote:
      >
      > How would you compare the ease of working with
      > Blatchford to that of Sterling? Is it worth the extra money to get
      > the Sterling, or might not that be perfectly flat either (of course
      > the plates might not be . . . .)??

      They work exactly the same, though Blatchford advertised the ease of
      locking up plates the size of a dime because of the close spacing of
      smaller holes. But the only thing worth any money at all is base in
      good condition. Any piece of Blatchford base is at least forty years
      old, maybe eighty. However, even steel Sterling base can be abused,
      and anything that has been dumped in the barrel and kicked around the
      last couple decades is supect.
      I'd think a good choice would be a Blatchford or Sterling chase
      (both were available in full chases for specific presses) stored in a
      chase rack. Worst choice is a bunch of pieces from different sources
      with varying degrees of wear.
      Bear in mind that photopolymer plates must be mounted on a rigid
      plate of suitable thickness in order to use them with any patent base.
      I stress rigid because the holes in honeycomb will show in solid areas
      if there is the slightest deflection of the backing plate (well, you
      can plug the hole with dowel). In the end, there's a reason most of us
      use Bunting, Patmag or Boxcar methods of mounting photopolymer plates.
      --Eric Holub, SF
    • Lisa Davidson
      Aha, thank you, Eric. Lisa ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      Message 2 of 10 , Jul 5 3:31 PM
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        Aha, thank you, Eric.
        Lisa


        On Jul 5, 2008, at 11:25 AM, parallel_imp wrote:

        > --- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, Lisa Davidson
        > <lisaxdavidson@...> wrote:
        > >
        > > How would you compare the ease of working with
        > > Blatchford to that of Sterling? Is it worth the extra money to get
        > > the Sterling, or might not that be perfectly flat either (of course
        > > the plates might not be . . . .)??
        >
        > They work exactly the same, though Blatchford advertised the ease of
        > locking up plates the size of a dime because of the close spacing of
        > smaller holes. But the only thing worth any money at all is base in
        > good condition. Any piece of Blatchford base is at least forty years
        > old, maybe eighty. However, even steel Sterling base can be abused,
        > and anything that has been dumped in the barrel and kicked around the
        > last couple decades is supect.
        > I'd think a good choice would be a Blatchford or Sterling chase
        > (both were available in full chases for specific presses) stored in a
        > chase rack. Worst choice is a bunch of pieces from different sources
        > with varying degrees of wear.
        > Bear in mind that photopolymer plates must be mounted on a rigid
        > plate of suitable thickness in order to use them with any patent base.
        > I stress rigid because the holes in honeycomb will show in solid areas
        > if there is the slightest deflection of the backing plate (well, you
        > can plug the hole with dowel). In the end, there's a reason most of us
        > use Bunting, Patmag or Boxcar methods of mounting photopolymer plates.
        > --Eric Holub, SF
        >
        >
        >



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      • Lamsland
        I don t have or know about the Blatchford base, but we have and still use the Sterling Honeycomb base. Matthew LAMMY Lamoureux Full Metal Press - Operis
        Message 3 of 10 , Jul 7 6:27 AM
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          I don't have or know about the Blatchford base, but we have and still
          use the Sterling Honeycomb base.


          Matthew "LAMMY" Lamoureux
          Full Metal Press - Operis servo a specialis nundinae

          On Jul 4, 2008, at 4:16 PM, lisaxdavidson wrote:

          >
          > Hi, everyone,
          >
          > In my price-reconnoitering about Sterling honeycomb base, I came
          > across something called
          > Blatchford patent base, which is a similar design with holes and
          > hooks. Has anyone had
          > experience with this stuff, or even know how perfectly flat it is,
          > or how thick it is?
          >
          > Thanks much,
          >
          > Lisa
          >
          >
          >



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        • John G. Henry
          I use both Sterling and Blatchford bases on my presses. I have chases set up with the Sterling for my cylinder press and the Blatchford for my platen press. I
          Message 4 of 10 , Jul 7 8:29 AM
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            I use both Sterling and Blatchford bases on my presses. I have chases
            set up with the Sterling for my cylinder press and the Blatchford for
            my platen press. I find no fault with either system.

            Take care in cleaning the bases (if you purchase used) and do not use
            any caustic cleaners (lye, paint stripper, etc.) as the magnesium base
            will be eaten away. That comment not from experience, but from knowing
            the physical makeup of aluminum and magnesium.

            I use a very stiff plastic as a base for mounting my polymer plates,
            and have good success with no show-through of the latch holes in the
            base. I have used steel as a mounting plate material in the past as
            well, but have switched to the plastic as it is easier to cut and bevel
            and works well for me. Experiment with materials you find available at
            your local home center. Polycarbonate window glazing is certainly a
            good material, and is available in the proper caliper to mount the
            plates I use.

            If you do choose to use a plastic inter-base to mount the photopolymer
            plates, make certain you do not tighten the hooks so tight that they
            cause the plate to warp when locked up.

            Of course, the bases are wonderful for mounting 11pt. engravings and
            embossing dies.
          • Lisa Davidson
            Thanks, John, that s extremely helpful. Lisa ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            Message 5 of 10 , Jul 7 8:40 AM
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              Thanks, John, that's extremely helpful.
              Lisa

              On Jul 7, 2008, at 8:29 AM, John G. Henry wrote:

              > I use both Sterling and Blatchford bases on my presses. I have chases
              > set up with the Sterling for my cylinder press and the Blatchford for
              > my platen press. I find no fault with either system.
              >
              > Take care in cleaning the bases (if you purchase used) and do not use
              > any caustic cleaners (lye, paint stripper, etc.) as the magnesium base
              > will be eaten away. That comment not from experience, but from knowing
              > the physical makeup of aluminum and magnesium.
              >
              > I use a very stiff plastic as a base for mounting my polymer plates,
              > and have good success with no show-through of the latch holes in the
              > base. I have used steel as a mounting plate material in the past as
              > well, but have switched to the plastic as it is easier to cut and
              > bevel
              > and works well for me. Experiment with materials you find available at
              > your local home center. Polycarbonate window glazing is certainly a
              > good material, and is available in the proper caliper to mount the
              > plates I use.
              >
              > If you do choose to use a plastic inter-base to mount the photopolymer
              > plates, make certain you do not tighten the hooks so tight that they
              > cause the plate to warp when locked up.
              >
              > Of course, the bases are wonderful for mounting 11pt. engravings and
              > embossing dies.
              >
              >
              >



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