RE: RE: [PPLetterpress] Re: Advice for deep impression
- Danke Schoen Ludwig,
The closest is the Einfache Kanzlei. X height and weight
looks very close. You can see my sample on the cover of
my webpage. There were more than a half dozen Kanzlei
faces in the books I found in Chicago, all of these were
slight variations like you point to here. Mabye the "Canzlei"
was marketed for the Alsace/Lorraine region and is a French
I posted the page from the Bible that started me down this path
and a link to the specimen page from Herr SchumacherGebler. Got
the bible at a farm auction in central Kansas.
Interesting that the publishing information/date are printed in
the middle of the bible at the beginning of the New Testament.
Thanks for connecting me to Dipl.-Ing Helzel.
That price is in Euros. Weak dollar. Have to save up.
From: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Ludwig M. Solzen
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 7:23 AM
Subject: RE: [PPLetterpress] Re: Advice for deep impression
Not sure if the specific Canzlei you mention is in there, but Dipl.-Ing.
Gerhard Helzel has some quite well-done digitizations of Chancery
Blackletter founts (Kanzlei Frakturschriften), amongst which the "Schmale
Kanzlei" from Schelter & Giesecke (1886). It is amazing who Helzel manages
to do all this work: to-date over 250 digital revivals of classic
blackletter founts! And the outlines are no poor job for sure. At only ?
15-30,- per font purchasing a licence from Helzel really is a bargain.
hamburg.de/fraktur6.htm (bottom of page)
hamburg.de/fraktur7.htm (top of page)
Van: PPLetterpress@ <mailto:PPLetterpress%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
Namens Michael T. Metz
Verzonden: vrijdag 26 januari 2007 16:29
Aan: PPLetterpress@ <mailto:PPLetterpress%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: [PPLetterpress] Re: Advice for deep impression
What was that Hee Haw song...
"If it weren't for bad ideas, I'd have no ideas at
all. Wo is me, the agony oh dear." Ha ha.
Thanks for putting up with it.
ps Yes, still have some of "When the Toilet Paper Hit the Windmill".
These are $8 back issues. Graham Moss recognized from eyeballing it
that I used Perpetua, but he could see the difference between it and
metal. The masthead (that is the wrong term, but I can't remember
the correct one at the moment) uses a blackletter face I found on
a single line on the title page of the New Testament section in a
19th century German bible. Spent three years searching for it's
history and a couple more digitizing that single line using Fontlab's
Scanfont. Search lead me to Hans Peter Willberg who lead me to a very
gracious Herr Eckehart SchumacherGebler at the Museum for Printing in
Leipzig who found me the money in a J.G. Schelter & Gieseke speciment
book: Neue Canzlei. Found several S&G specimen books at the Newberry
Library in Chicago, and it seems there were a lot of Chancelor faces.
I write all my letters in Neue Canzlei now, but I haven't digitized
the complete font yet so sometimes they are hard to read.
From: PPLetterpress@ <mailto:PPLetterpress%40yahoogroups.com>
On Behalf Of Gerald Lange
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 10:36 PM
To: PPLetterpress@ <mailto:PPLetterpress%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PPLetterpress] Re: Advice for deep impression
You've always got a lot of ideas. That's good. I like that. Keep them
coming as they say.
Pretty much everything I've written on digital-to-analog can be found in
the PDT monograph, the articles up at
<http://bielerpressi <http://bielerpressii.blogspot.com/> i.blogspot.com/>
or scattered here and about in the message archives at PPL.
I did start a Database table there a long while back with a listing of
useful faces with commentary, but when no one else contributed to it I
eventually nicked it. And no longer have the data.
I am working on another monograph, for some several years now, but it
concentrates on d-t-a at the microtypographic level of investigation. My
very insular concern and interest. But I don't ever seem to have the
time (time = money, money = time) to complete it.
The problem with me concentrating on something like your proposal is
that we are in the midst of what appears to be a decade long transition
in font formats. Not many seem to be paying attention to this, but when
it is complete, many Postscript Type 1 typefaces (that have accumulated
over the last two decades) with be lost to us. And the format itself may
no longer be viable on forthcoming operating systems. So basically, it
would be a "short missive" with a constant need for revision. Based on
my experience with the need to revise and update PDT every three years
or so, I doubt I would be up for it.
ps. Do you have any more of the chapbook you did on the Heidelberg and
printing on toilet paper? I loved it so much I gave to a friend. Would
like to get a few more.
Michael T. Metz wrote:
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> Speaking of a need, would you consider publishing a compendium of your
> thoughts on fonts in polymer? If you would consider publishing a short
> missive, I'd buy it and I'd bet not a few others would as well. As
> a first round might even ask the list for a prepay and distribute it
> as as a pdf. Second round would include a printer's broadside "eye chart"
> of the good, the bad, and the ugly.
> Mike Metz
> Lamppost Press
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