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  • Steve Robison
    Shelley, Glad to be of help!!! Best wishes, --Steve Steve Robison (sfletterpress list manager) Robison Press Belmont, CA ...
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      Shelley,

      Glad to be of help!!!

      Best wishes,

      --Steve

      Steve Robison (sfletterpress list manager)
      Robison Press
      Belmont, CA

      --- Shelley Weir <liamweirsmom@...> wrote:

      > Wow, what a great help Steve... thanks!
      >
      > Best wishes to you,
      > Shelley
      >
      >
      > --- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, Steve Robison
      > <robisonsteve@y...>
      > wrote:
      > >
      > > Shelley,
      > >
      > > Here's an extra two bits of opinion (that I hope
      > is
      > > reasonably accurate) that I hope will add to those
      > > before me and help you get started...
      > >
      > > PRESSES:
      > >
      > > Know that an 8x12 platen job press of most any
      > make
      > > and model (C&P and Golding probably being the
      > most
      > > common) is an excellent size letterpress for
      > printing
      > > all kinds of social or business stationary. It is
      > a
      > > fairly manageable size job press for most of the
      > job
      > > work you will probably ever encounter...and they
      > weigh
      > > in at only about 1200 lbs. instead of 1600+ for a
      > > 10x15, so they're easier to move too!
      > >
      > > Other smaller presses are great for stationary
      > too. If
      > > you can find one, a 7x11 Pearl is even lighter at
      > > about 400-500 lbs. and will give you great
      > results,
      > > and a hand lever C&P Pilot is a 6-1/2"x10" table
      > top
      > > at about 200 lbs that can also give excellent
      > results
      > > for stationary.
      > >
      > > Sure, a 10x15 is larger and can print larger paper
      > and
      > > huge envelopes, but you will rarely be printing
      > social
      > > or business stationary requiring that size chase.
      > C&P
      > > and others made huge platen presses (e.g. 18"x22"
      > > etc.) that weighed tons. Sure they could print
      > > stationary, but all that extra platen space would
      > be
      > > wasted overkill...unless you were doing huge die
      > > cutting projects or other extra heavy-duty stuff
      > where
      > > you need the extra weight behind the impression.
      > >
      > > These the 8x12 "clamshell" or "Gordon" platen job
      > > presses were designed specifically for printing
      > > stationary and forms and print at fairly high
      > speeds.
      > > As such they became very popular with stationary
      > > printing which is one of the mainstays of the job
      > > printing business. So you're on the right track if
      > you
      > > are planning to do a lot of this type of work!
      > >
      > > On the other hand, if you plan to do limited
      > edition
      > > book work like artists books or large pages of
      > fine
      > > letterpress text, or posters, or broadside work,
      > you
      > > would be wise to consider a flatbed press like a
      > > Vandercook. Otherwise, some type of "clamshell"
      > platen
      > > job press is probably what you want.
      > >
      > > USING YOUR PRESS TO PRINT STATIONARY:
      > >
      > > The point everyone before me is trying to make is
      > that
      > > most letterhead stationary usually has the logo
      > and/or
      > > text at the top of the page...and the type doesn't
      > go
      > > all the way across the page because you usually
      > need
      > > some "white space" on either side of a letterhead.
      >
      > > So you aren't really printing an 8-1/2" wide
      > > letterhead on an 8-1/2" wide piece of
      > paper...you're
      > > really only printing about a 6" to 7" width of
      > type on
      > > a full 8-1/2" x 11" size piece of business
      > stationary.
      > > This width can easily be printed on an 8x12 C&P.
      > >
      > > To do so, you simply lock up your letterhead logo
      > and
      > > type along the long side of the chase( along the
      > 12"
      > > side of the chase on an 8x12 C&P). Then load the
      > chase
      > > in the press so that the type is at the low point
      > of
      > > the bed and prints on the lower part of the
      > platen.
      > > You of course will need to set your gauge pins
      > down
      > > low on the platen too. When you feed the paper
      > into
      > > the press, the top edge of the stationary sheet
      > will
      > > slide toward the lower edge of the platen against
      > your
      > > gauge pins and you'll print along that edge.
      > >
      > > The excess "blank" part of the paper that is not
      > being
      > > printed will "hang out" over the top edge of the
      > > platen -- ready for you to grab when you need to
      > pull
      > > the sheet out after printing each sheet.
      > >
      > > Of course, if the design/text is not too wide, you
      > can
      > > also lock the type along the left or right side of
      > the
      > > chase, drop the stationary sheet in sideways, and
      > > print either the top or bottom or both top and
      > bottom
      > > in one pass.
      > >
      > > In more than one pass, you can print anywhere you
      > want
      > > on the sheet...along the long edge, at the bottom,
      > in
      > > different ink shades, emboss or deboss emblems,
      > add
      > > gold foil, etc. Use your creativity! Have some
      > fun!
      > >
      > > I've printed tens of thousands of pieces of
      > stationary
      > > on a 8x12 C&P using these methods. With smaller
      > > logos/letterheads I've also printed stationary on
      > 3x5
      > > presses, 5x8 presses, 6-1/2 x 10 Pilot presses,
      > 7x11
      > > Pearl presses, etc. I've also printed stationary
      > on
      > > 10x15 C&P's and large Vandercooks, but rarely
      > needed
      > > the extra chase space unless I was printing extra
      > > large Manilla envelopes or something just
      > physically
      > > too big to fit into the 8x12.
      > >
      > > Hope this info is useful for you and helps with
      > your
      > > decisions.
      > >
      > > Welcome to "letterpress."
      > >
      > > Best wishes,
      > >
      > > --Steve
      > >
      > > Steve Robison
      > > Robison Press
      > > Belmont, CA (about 25 miles south of San
      > Francisco)
      > >
      > > --- "David S. Rose" <lists@r...> wrote:
      > >
      > > > Shelley,
      > > >
      > > > Actually, you can indeed do letterheads on
      > an 8
      > > > x 12, which is one of
      > > > the reasons that size press was quite popular in
      > job
      > > > shops. If necessary
      > > > (depending on how you lay out the job) you can
      > > > overhang the bottom of the
      > > > sheet on the platen.
      > > >
      > > > Thanks for the nice words about the Intro
      > site,
      > > > and good luck with
      > > > starting up your press!
      > > >
      > > > -David
      > > >
      > > > > From: liamweirsmom <liamweirsmom@y...>
      > > > > Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 21:04:16 -0000
      > > > > Subject: [PPLetterpress] Re: Beginner needs
      > your
      > > > advice!
      > > > >
      > > > ...
      > > > >
      > > > > I will definately have to take a trip to Don
      > > > Black's
      > > > > to check out the equipment. I see that he
      > > > currently
      > > > > has a C&P 8x12... I think that is too small
      > for me
      > > > > because you couldn't even do letterhead,
      > right?
      > > > > Should I hold out for a 10x15?
      > > > ...
      > >
      > >
      > > Steve Robison
      > > Belmont, CA
      > > robisonsteve@y...
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
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      Steve Robison
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