Re: [PPLetterpress] Re: troubleshooting
the problem she has is with the machine, the machine doesn't seem to
have a gage for vacuum pressure, so basically she has no way of knowing
if she has enough or what.
The exposing of a plate with Film is a very critical stage of
platemaking, a good vacuum, a good piece of Film and it's smooth
sailing. I just made 65 9.5 x13 inch plates (WH 94) for a book project
the other day.
If you have no way of measuring your action it is very difficult to
repeat it over and over.
I actually prefer the BASF, especially for halftones or very fine
detail though I am not sure I have quite figured out the correct
washout for them as they never seem finished to me. The surface
texture is ideal, but yes, they do stink and crud up the bath. I like
plates that indicate by color, surface and subsurface, which both the
BASF and the Toyobo do. For some reason I think it helps clarify
things for me.
There are probably a lot better plates out there, BASF is getting to
be rather old technology I'd think (maybe that's not bad though).
Would appreciate any info you discover in this regard.
You might like this: When I first started buying photopolymer plates I
went to visit my processor and discovered a completely different plate
on his press (a BASF). I asked him why he didn't sell those to his
clients. He didn't miss a beat, "Because my customers are too f***ing
At any rate, I keep profiles on clients as to their needs and
expectations and often process plates based on various formulas I have
used. I think the Toyobos require much less exposure and much more
washout (than the reps tell you) to get to finer detail and better
substructure. I've run Jets at the same formula and they are not quite
there. So I assume they have their own configuration. But I don't use
them or sell them so don't know what that would be.
Once again, good luck with the move.
--- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, Harold Kyle <harold@b...> wrote:
> On 6/3/05 5:45 PM, "Gerald Lange" <bieler@w...> wrote:
> > My comment about higher grade plate brand had nothing to do with
> I'm sorry--I thought that was the plate that you preferred. Would a
> grade be BASF? Are there any other plates that you consider top of
> > so it is essentially
> > misleading to compare them or any other plate brand in the manner that
> > you suggest.
> The test I did showed that the Printight plate gained more with less
> To get more detail I would have had to increase exposure, causing
> I relied on the rep selling Printight to dial in the right numbers.
> agree that this is a slippery issue, and best left up to the printer's
> judgement. I'm stating my personal preference and standing up for it
> on tests I've done. The differences between brands are minimal but
> print I have the attitude: "I need all the help I can get." I really
> could afford BASF plates, and I might consider using them more if they
> didn't smell so much!
> > Just out of curiosity, would you have switched brands if Toyobo had
> > surpassed the Jet in your comparison test?
> We sell Printight plates alongside Jet and BASF plates, so we're very
> familiar with the Printight brand in relation to the competition. We
> them for intaglio processing. The pricing is comparable with Jet
> yes I would be tempted to switch brands if I felt the plates were
> sharp on the letterpress. The Printight salesman hasn't given up--we
> troubleshooting the gain issues soon. For now, I'm sticking with the
> that I know are going to give the best results.
> I'll be back on Monday! The trailer's loaded up and ready to go.
> Boxcar Press
> Fine Printing / Digital Letterpress Supplies
> Delavan Center / 501 W. Fayette St. / Studio 222 / Syracuse, NY 13204
> 315-473-0930 phone / 315-473-0967 fax / www.boxcarpress.com
- Hi Charles
No vacuum gauge? How did you find that out?
Geez, this was all sort of a big waste of time then wasn't it? If it
does nothing else, a gauge will tell you when vacuum is iffy, and, if
it reveals release during exposure, your plate/s just went south. Kind
of an important feature.
--- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, LA. Book Arts <livres@a...> wrote:
> the problem she has is with the machine, the machine doesn't seem to
> have a gage for vacuum pressure, so basically she has no way of knowing
> if she has enough or what.
> The exposing of a plate with Film is a very critical stage of
> platemaking, a good vacuum, a good piece of Film and it's smooth
> sailing. I just made 65 9.5 x13 inch plates (WH 94) for a book project
> the other day.
> If you have no way of measuring your action it is very difficult to
> repeat it over and over.