Re: [PPLetterpress] Re: Need a new solvent ASAP!
Re: [PPLetterpress] Re: Need a new solvent ASAP!Hi,I usually use odorless mineral spirits myself but I just recently tried out a product called Genie Safe & Easy and think I'm going to be permanently switching to it. It cleans more thoroughly and faster than anything I've previously tried. I'm pretty impressed. I admit that I'm more interested in the efficiency than the health benefits but it also claims to be fairly non-toxic. It's available here if you want to check it out:>http://www.christinesgraphicsupplies.com/htm/genie_safe_and_easy.htm
I've been going back to this post all summer wondering about this. I thought "Oderless Mineral Spirts" was "Oderless Mineral Spirits" but maybe I'm wrong! I had started out with Gamsol bought from Dick Blick and at some point started using KleanStrip Odorless Mineral Spirits assuming it was the same thing, just in less fancy packaging.
Looking at the MSDS pdfs of various products I come across this. Gamsol is 100% Naptha. Sunnyside is Synthetic Isoparafinic. California Wash is about 80% Naptha and a few other things. KleanStrip is "Stoddard Solvent" (Mineral spirits, Alphatic Petroleum Distillates, White Spirits).
I don't know one from the other, but is the Klean-Strip the stuff at Home Depot you recommend against? This stuff doesn't say anything about being "non-combustible" or green. The local hardware store has Sunnyside so I can try that, or maybe I should go back to Gamsol?
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Gerald Lange <Bieler@...> wrote:
The odorless mineral spirits that were available at the major hardware chains, Home Depot, OSH, etc., were changed within the last year. I believe this was posted here. The new "non-combustible" formulas and the newer "green" versions are beyond worthless. Even the help guys at Home Depot will not recommend the latter.
Basically go to your local hardware store to get this stuff. Sunnyside (sp?) is one that is still okay.
This gets worse year by year because of the green mandate. No VOCs-but in regard to your physical health; here try this acetone or diesel fuel, or god knows what. . . See how that works out. If not we will pull it off the market. Which they do each and every year.
Next year, like the last several years, because these "green" concoctions are not working, it will be something else.
--- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, "keetgi" <keetgi.kogan@...> wrote:
> Hi! I just came back from the dermatologist and apparently I am having an allergic reaction to the odourless mineral spirits I've been using to clean my press.
> Can anyone recommend a non-toxic solution that won't rust out my press (Vandercook sp20)?
> I would appreciate any help or advice.
- Well you know how it goes with products imported from Chna. . . . ;)
From: Gerald Lange <Bieler@...>;
Subject: [PPLetterpress] Re: Need a new solvent ASAP!
Sent: Sat, Aug 20, 2011 7:47:39 AM
There seem to be a number of these off brand "green" solvents slipping past the censors. No ingredients listing, no MSDS supplied. Available in stores and on line. Very strange considering the strict regulations imposed on known manufacturers.
--- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, sylvia chevrier <sylviachevrier@...> wrote:
> I checked on the bottle I have and there is no ingredient list. There
> is an 800 number to call for "technical assistance". Early next week
> when I have some free time I'm going to call, because now I'm
> curious. I'll let you know if I find out anything worthwhile.
> Whatever is in it, this product has really made clean up alot easier for me.
> >I contacted Christine's Graphic Supplies to ask about Genie's Safe N
> >Easy and obtain it's MSDS. Don't know what I was expecting since it
> >claims to have no harsh toxins there was nothing listed on the sheet
> >regarding "ingredients". I was just curious what it's made of. I was
> >also told it's "super concentrated". Now like with California Wash,
> >which some people use out of the can but is recommended to be mixed
> >with water...why is that not a bad idea? Wouldn't I want to keep
> >water-soluble solvents away from a press? Though I guess if applied
> >carefully it only should touch the rollers...
> >Dan Selzer