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RE: [PPLetterpress] Re: Split fountain effect on Heidelberg Windmill 10x15

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  • Mike Metz
    I think you could purchase an extra doctor blade (they are pricey, $100), and with a little ingenuity do the same thing. From: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
    Message 1 of 16 , Sep 12, 2010
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      I think you could purchase an extra doctor blade (they are pricey, $100), and with a little ingenuity do the same thing.

       

      From: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of KalleP
      Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 2:34 AM
      To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [PPLetterpress] Re: Split fountain effect on Heidelberg Windmill 10x15

       

       

      Found a interesting patent granted to Heidelberg that illustrated a ink saver that might be used as inspiration. It is intended to strip the ink away from outside the printing area but could be used to strip it from the center portion where the occilating roller would mix the colours. I think it was for ofset presses but the idea may work.

      http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5603263.pdf

      As for the wedges in the fountain, if there are any steel plates perhaps strong magnets could be used to keep the wood wedges in place.

      > > What about the Baldwin method? More details please :)
      > This was an attachment that pressed a small blade against an ink drum or
      metal roller. It would continually strip off the ink, so no buildup and no mixing. Probably it was never made for the Windmill, I am just pointing out another possibile solution.
      > Baldwin made all kinds of press attachments, including fountain dividers
      and washup devices.
      > --Eric Holub, SF
      >

    • matthew lamoureux
      I don t think the wood is going to do anything to the steel honestly. It s not like I use them for weeks on end in the same place either. If they were made of
      Message 2 of 16 , Sep 12, 2010
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        I don't think the wood is going to do anything to the steel honestly. It's not like I use them for weeks on end in the same place either. If they were made of a metal of some sort I could see them having a felt where they contact the fountain roller. 
         
        Matthew "LAMMY" Lamoureux
        Full Metal Press - Operis servo a specialis nundinae

        Where the press is free and every man able to read, all is safe.
        Thomas Jefferson


        When Benjamin Franklin exited the Constitutional Convention, he was asked by a woman, "Sir, what have you given us?" He replied, "A Republic, Ma'am, if you can keep it".



        From: i_goonies <neroinferno@...>
        To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Sun, September 12, 2010 2:34:47 AM
        Subject: [PPLetterpress] Re: Split fountain effect on Heidelberg Windmill 10x15

         

        Hello Matthew,
        thanks for the tips.

        You should however protect the side wedge in contact with the roller with something!

        Fabio

        --- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, matthew lamoureux <lamsland@...> wrote:
        >
        > I made mine out of hard wood. Use a caliper to measure the diamiter of the
        > fountain roller. use a hole saw to cut that size hole in a length of wood, then
        > cut to the proper shape to fit the fountain. I then drilled another hole through
        > which I could pass a steel bar. I drilled and tapped perpendicular to this hole
        > to insert a thumb screw. The steel bar just fits into the fountain and holds the
        > wedges in place so if there's different amounts of ink on each side they don't
        > get pushed around. I also tape the ends of the wedges to to the fountain to help
        > hold them still. What I really need is a way to hold the bar in position as the
        > ink tends to get under the wedges and pushes them up slightly.
        >
        > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnPkzSYEqFM
        > Matthew "LAMMY" Lamoureux
        > Full Metal Press - Operis servo a specialis nundinae
        >
        >
        > Where the press is free and every man able to read, all is safe.
        > Thomas Jefferson
        >
        >
        > When Benjamin Franklin exited the Constitutional Convention, he was asked by a
        > woman, "Sir, what have you given us?" He replied, "A Republic, Ma'am, if you can
        > keep it".
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > ________________________________
        > From: i_goonies <neroinferno@...>
        > To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
        > Sent: Sat, September 11, 2010 3:22:22 PM
        > Subject: [PPLetterpress] Re: Split fountain effect on Heidelberg Windmill 10x15
        >
        >
        > I really admire those guys.
        >
        > Here a partial answer:
        > http://www.beastpieces.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/0001_StudioOnFire_kostreva_ink_fountain2.jpg
        >
        >
        > What are those dividers!? Where can I buy them?
        >
        > Thanks!
        >
        > --- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, Amber Ellis-Seguine <amber@> wrote:
        > >
        > > I have done it! It is possible you can only get so many prints before the color
        > >runs all together, so setting everything up before is key! No disabling of
        > >rollers. Just try it and you will see how it works. Also check out the blog by
        > >studio on fire called beast pieces they did it recently as well.
        > >
        > >
        > > Sent from my iPhone
        > >
        > > On Sep 10, 2010, at 4:39 AM, "i_goonies" <neroinferno@> wrote:
        > >
        > > > Hello guys,
        > > > I'd like to know if anyone successed to print with split fountain effect on
        > >the Heidelberg Windmill 10x15.
        > > >
        > > > I asked the same question on Briar Press but a guy said me isn't possible,
        > >because the main roller moves back and forth to spread the ink, so if you put
        > >more ink tones on the main roller they will merge each others.
        > > >
        > > > What about your experience?
        > > >
        > > > Is possible to disable the oscillating rollers?
        > > >
        > > > Thanks :)
        > > > Fabio
        > > >
        > > >
        > >
        >


      • i_goonies
        Thanks :) I believe this can be a good solution.
        Message 3 of 16 , Sep 13, 2010
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          Thanks :)

          I believe this can be a good solution.



          --- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, "KalleP" <kalle@...> wrote:
          >
          > Found a interesting patent granted to Heidelberg that illustrated a ink saver that might be used as inspiration. It is intended to strip the ink away from outside the printing area but could be used to strip it from the center portion where the occilating roller would mix the colours. I think it was for ofset presses but the idea may work.
          >
          > http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5603263.pdf
          >
          > As for the wedges in the fountain, if there are any steel plates perhaps strong magnets could be used to keep the wood wedges in place.
          >
          > > > What about the Baldwin method? More details please :)
          > > This was an attachment that pressed a small blade against an ink drum or metal roller. It would continually strip off the ink, so no buildup and no mixing. Probably it was never made for the Windmill, I am just pointing out another possibile solution.
          > > Baldwin made all kinds of press attachments, including fountain dividers and washup devices.
          > > --Eric Holub, SF
          > >
          >
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