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  • Julie Larson
    You can take inspiration from the ideas and then create a new work of your own using your own style. ________________________________ From: jenny_detwiler
    Message 1 of 15 , Jun 12, 2009
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      You can take inspiration from the ideas and then create a new work of your own using your own style.




      ________________________________
      From: jenny_detwiler <jenny_detwiler@...>
      To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:15:25 PM
      Subject: [PPLetterpress] Design





      Looking for input on the "correct" way to use a few books that I recently purchased. Both are graphic design books that have color pictures of invitations, announcements, business cards, logos, and other things like that. Where is the line between plagiarism and using these books for design ideas? Is changing general layout, color, graphics, paper, ink, printing process, information, and font enough to make it your own if you got the idea from someone else's work? Thanks for any input!

      -Jenny




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    • Casey McGarr
      Jenny, Use the books as reference to help you generate your own ideas. The book store have plenty of patterns and decoration specific books for you to
      Message 2 of 15 , Jun 13, 2009
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        Jenny,

        Use the books as reference to help you generate your own ideas. The book store have plenty of patterns and decoration specific books for you to purchase.

        It's important to look at everything. However, after you absorb all that information how can you design something that has a point of difference. Make it your own and uniquely your design.

        Casey




        --- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, "jenny_detwiler" <jenny_detwiler@...> wrote:
        >
        > Looking for input on the "correct" way to use a few books that I recently purchased. Both are graphic design books that have color pictures of invitations, announcements, business cards, logos, and other things like that. Where is the line between plagiarism and using these books for design ideas? Is changing general layout, color, graphics, paper, ink, printing process, information, and font enough to make it your own if you got the idea from someone else's work? Thanks for any input!
        >
        > -Jenny
        >
      • Austin Jones
        My first question to you is What was your reason for purchasing the books? . Your reason for purchasing the books will give some sense of purpose. If you
        Message 3 of 15 , Jun 13, 2009
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          My first question to you is "What was your reason for purchasing the
          books?". Your reason for purchasing the books will give some sense of
          purpose. If you purchased them strictly for inspiration, then I would say
          you are on the right track. If you purchased them with the idea of
          reproducing them, well then I would suggest there might be a problem.

          We all look outside our own corner for inspiration. That is a healthy way to
          keep the mind working. Seeing what someone else is doing and how they
          managed to get a particular result, that is what it is all about. I would
          think that this is probably the primary reason for the publication in the
          first place. These producers have something to say and show. So, look, be
          inspired, and go apply their ideas to your own designs.

          BTW: would you care to give us the titles and authors.

          tks

          Austin Jones
          prints by AJ
          austin@...
          http://printsbyaj.com
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: "jenny_detwiler" <jenny_detwiler@...>
          To: <PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:15 PM
          Subject: [PPLetterpress] Design


          > Looking for input on the "correct" way to use a few books that I recently
          > purchased. Both are graphic design books that have color pictures of
          > invitations, announcements, business cards, logos, and other things like
          > that. Where is the line between plagiarism and using these books for
          > design ideas? Is changing general layout, color, graphics, paper, ink,
          > printing process, information, and font enough to make it your own if you
          > got the idea from someone else's work? Thanks for any input!
          >
          > -Jenny
          >
          >
          >
          > ------------------------------------
          >
          > Yahoo! Groups Links
          >
          >
          >
        • Jenny Detwiler
          Thanks to everyone for all the feedback, I think I was on the right track, but somehow I still feel guilty being inspired by someone else s work.  The book
          Message 4 of 15 , Jun 13, 2009
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            Thanks to everyone for all the feedback, I think I was on the right track, but somehow I still feel guilty being inspired by someone else's work.  The book titles are:  1000 Greetings-Creative Correspondence Designed for All Occasions by Peter King and Company, and the other is The Best of Letterhead and Logo Design don't see author.........both are also from Rockport Publishers, Inc. 
            Thanks again!
            -Jenny Pierce

            --- On Sat, 6/13/09, Austin Jones <austin@...> wrote:


            From: Austin Jones <austin@...>
            Subject: Re: [PPLetterpress] Design
            To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
            Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 1:16 PM








            My first question to you is "What was your reason for purchasing the
            books?". Your reason for purchasing the books will give some sense of
            purpose. If you purchased them strictly for inspiration, then I would say
            you are on the right track. If you purchased them with the idea of
            reproducing them, well then I would suggest there might be a problem.

            We all look outside our own corner for inspiration. That is a healthy way to
            keep the mind working. Seeing what someone else is doing and how they
            managed to get a particular result, that is what it is all about. I would
            think that this is probably the primary reason for the publication in the
            first place. These producers have something to say and show. So, look, be
            inspired, and go apply their ideas to your own designs.

            BTW: would you care to give us the titles and authors.

            tks

            Austin Jones
            prints by AJ
            austin@printsbyaj. com
            http://printsbyaj. com
            ----- Original Message -----
            From: "jenny_detwiler" <jenny_detwiler@ yahoo.com>
            To: <PPLetterpress@ yahoogroups. com>
            Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:15 PM
            Subject: [PPLetterpress] Design

            > Looking for input on the "correct" way to use a few books that I recently
            > purchased. Both are graphic design books that have color pictures of
            > invitations, announcements, business cards, logos, and other things like
            > that. Where is the line between plagiarism and using these books for
            > design ideas? Is changing general layout, color, graphics, paper, ink,
            > printing process, information, and font enough to make it your own if you
            > got the idea from someone else's work? Thanks for any input!
            >
            > -Jenny
            >
            >
            >
            > ------------ --------- --------- ------
            >
            > Yahoo! Groups Links
            >
            >
            >



















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          • Bob Hopfner
            Howdy All, My name is Bob Hopfner and I am a graphic designer. I ve always had an affinity for letterpress and have an interest in learning more about
            Message 5 of 15 , Jun 13, 2009
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              Howdy All,

              My name is Bob Hopfner and I am a graphic designer. I've always had an
              affinity for letterpress and have an interest in learning more about
              Letterpress, especially photo polymer as it would allow me to take my
              computer generated art to a very different medium. While I think I
              understand the basics, to say I have a clue what I am doing would
              probably require access to a press and some time in front of it. I'll
              try to chime in when I can especially like answering questions about
              Adobe Creative Suite and other technical issues leading up to plate making.

              Speaking of that anyone know what kind of "input" one of the plate
              makers at Boxcar press takes? a stat? b/w print off a laser printer?

              cheers,

              Bob Hopfner
            • Peter Fraterdeus
              Hi Bob Take a look here for a variety of FAQs on letterpress including photopolymer https://www.xmarks.com/site/www.fiveroses.org/intro.htm You ll need
              Message 6 of 15 , Jun 14, 2009
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                Hi Bob

                Take a look here for a variety of FAQs on letterpress including
                photopolymer
                https://www.xmarks.com/site/www.fiveroses.org/intro.htm

                You'll need high-density graphic art negatives (Right reading emulsion
                UP) for making PP plates.
                A stat camera could make these, but since you're starting with digital
                art, it makes more sense to have the art rendered on a film-based
                imagesetter (Linotronic, etc)

                Cheers

                PF


                On 14 Jun 2009, at 1:43 AM, Bob Hopfner wrote:

                > Howdy All,
                >
                > My name is Bob Hopfner and I am a graphic designer. I've always had an
                > affinity for letterpress and have an interest in learning more about
                > Letterpress, especially photo polymer as it would allow me to take my
                > computer generated art to a very different medium. While I think I
                > understand the basics, to say I have a clue what I am doing would
                > probably require access to a press and some time in front of it. I'll
                > try to chime in when I can especially like answering questions about
                > Adobe Creative Suite and other technical issues leading up to plate
                > making.
                >
                > Speaking of that anyone know what kind of "input" one of the plate
                > makers at Boxcar press takes? a stat? b/w print off a laser printer?
                >
                > cheers,
                >
                > Bob Hopfner

                Peter Fraterdeus
                Exquisite Letterpress
                http://slowprint.com/
              • Gerald Lange
                Howdy Bob Most film negative suppliers these days accept Press Quality PDFs such as those exported from the various components of the Adobe Creative Suite.
                Message 7 of 15 , Jun 14, 2009
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                  Howdy Bob

                  Most film negative suppliers these days accept Press Quality PDFs such as those exported from the various components of the Adobe Creative Suite. Some, including most photoengravers, will generate from a stat. I wouldn't recommend a b/w laser print out.

                  Boxcar Press makes its own film negatives of your e-file and no longer accepts third party film or whatever.

                  Gerald
                  http://BielerPress.blogspot.com


                  --- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, Bob Hopfner <rhopfner@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > Howdy All,
                  >
                  > My name is Bob Hopfner and I am a graphic designer. I've always had an
                  > affinity for letterpress and have an interest in learning more about
                  > Letterpress, especially photo polymer as it would allow me to take my
                  > computer generated art to a very different medium. While I think I
                  > understand the basics, to say I have a clue what I am doing would
                  > probably require access to a press and some time in front of it. I'll
                  > try to chime in when I can especially like answering questions about
                  > Adobe Creative Suite and other technical issues leading up to plate making.
                  >
                  > Speaking of that anyone know what kind of "input" one of the plate
                  > makers at Boxcar press takes? a stat? b/w print off a laser printer?
                  >
                  > cheers,
                  >
                  > Bob Hopfner
                  >
                • matthew lamoureux
                  Seriously they no longer accept provided films?? I can kind of see that with people trying to make films on laser printers and inkjets. It s kind of an
                  Message 8 of 15 , Jun 15, 2009
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                    Seriously they no longer accept provided films?? I can kind of see that with people trying to make "films" on laser printers and inkjets. It's kind of an insult to guys like me though that have been providing high quality films to the trades for years. Maybe they're more like us though, just trying to keep the machines running. Rapid Access chemistry doesn't take well to sitting around doing a whole lot of nothing.

                    Matthew "LAMMY" Lamoureux
                    Full Metal Press - Operis servo a specialis nundinae


                    Where the press is free and every man able to read, all is safe.
                    Thomas Jefferson




                    ________________________________
                    From: Gerald Lange <Bieler@...>
                    To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
                    Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 11:57:42 PM
                    Subject: [PPLetterpress] Re: Introduction





                    Howdy Bob

                    Most film negative suppliers these days accept Press Quality PDFs such as those exported from the various components of the Adobe Creative Suite. Some, including most photoengravers, will generate from a stat. I wouldn't recommend a b/w laser print out.

                    Boxcar Press makes its own film negatives of your e-file and no longer accepts third party film or whatever.

                    Gerald
                    http://BielerPress. blogspot. com

                    --- In PPLetterpress@ yahoogroups. com, Bob Hopfner <rhopfner@.. .> wrote:
                    >
                    > Howdy All,
                    >
                    > My name is Bob Hopfner and I am a graphic designer. I've always had an
                    > affinity for letterpress and have an interest in learning more about
                    > Letterpress, especially photo polymer as it would allow me to take my
                    > computer generated art to a very different medium. While I think I
                    > understand the basics, to say I have a clue what I am doing would
                    > probably require access to a press and some time in front of it. I'll
                    > try to chime in when I can especially like answering questions about
                    > Adobe Creative Suite and other technical issues leading up to plate making.
                    >
                    > Speaking of that anyone know what kind of "input" one of the plate
                    > makers at Boxcar press takes? a stat? b/w print off a laser printer?
                    >
                    > cheers,
                    >
                    > Bob Hopfner
                    >







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                  • Harold Kyle
                    This was not done for chemistry reasons. You touched on the problem that we faced with supplied films: many times they weren t even silver emulsion film. For
                    Message 9 of 15 , Jun 15, 2009
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                      This was not done for chemistry reasons. You touched on the problem that we
                      faced with supplied films: many times they weren't even silver emulsion
                      film. For many of our customers, a 'film' means an ink jet or laser
                      transparency, which for our processing is unacceptable and potentially very
                      costly. Even when the films were on silver, we found the variation in
                      quality (through shipping damage or inadequate density) disruptive to our
                      workflow. We have much tighter control over the quality and scheduling of
                      our printing plates by only using our own films. That's not to say that
                      there are many vendors such as yourself who can provide quality film,
                      though. I'm sorry you take offense over our policy, but we do this to
                      increase reliability of our customers' orders.

                      Thanks,
                      Harold
                      Boxcar Press



                      On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:19 AM, matthew lamoureux <lamsland@...>wrote:

                      >
                      >
                      > Seriously they no longer accept provided films?? I can kind of see that
                      > with people trying to make "films" on laser printers and inkjets. It's kind
                      > of an insult to guys like me though that have been providing high quality
                      > films to the trades for years. Maybe they're more like us though, just
                      > trying to keep the machines running. Rapid Access chemistry doesn't take
                      > well to sitting around doing a whole lot of nothing.
                      >
                      > Matthew "LAMMY" Lamoureux
                      > Full Metal Press - Operis servo a specialis nundinae
                      >
                      > Where the press is free and every man able to read, all is safe.
                      > Thomas Jefferson
                      >
                      > ________________________________
                      > From: Gerald Lange <Bieler@... <Bieler%40att.net>>
                      > To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com <PPLetterpress%40yahoogroups.com>
                      > Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 11:57:42 PM
                      > Subject: [PPLetterpress] Re: Introduction
                      >
                      > Howdy Bob
                      >
                      > Most film negative suppliers these days accept Press Quality PDFs such as
                      > those exported from the various components of the Adobe Creative Suite.
                      > Some, including most photoengravers, will generate from a stat. I wouldn't
                      > recommend a b/w laser print out.
                      >
                      > Boxcar Press makes its own film negatives of your e-file and no longer
                      > accepts third party film or whatever.
                      >
                      > Gerald
                      > http://BielerPress. blogspot. com
                      >
                      > --- In PPLetterpress@ yahoogroups. com, Bob Hopfner <rhopfner@.. .> wrote:
                      > >
                      > > Howdy All,
                      > >
                      > > My name is Bob Hopfner and I am a graphic designer. I've always had an
                      > > affinity for letterpress and have an interest in learning more about
                      > > Letterpress, especially photo polymer as it would allow me to take my
                      > > computer generated art to a very different medium. While I think I
                      > > understand the basics, to say I have a clue what I am doing would
                      > > probably require access to a press and some time in front of it. I'll
                      > > try to chime in when I can especially like answering questions about
                      > > Adobe Creative Suite and other technical issues leading up to plate
                      > making.
                      > >
                      > > Speaking of that anyone know what kind of "input" one of the plate
                      > > makers at Boxcar press takes? a stat? b/w print off a laser printer?
                      > >
                      > > cheers,
                      > >
                      > > Bob Hopfner
                      > >
                      >
                      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed
                      >



                      --
                      ---
                      Boxcar Press
                      501 W. Fayette St. #222
                      Syracuse, NY 13204
                      www.boxcarpress.com


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                    • Scott Rubel
                      Inspiration is practical. No artist works in a vacuum. You can be inspired and still be original. Of course there are millions of Dover and other brand
                      Message 10 of 15 , Jun 15, 2009
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                        Inspiration is practical. No artist works in a vacuum. You can be
                        inspired and still be original.

                        Of course there are millions of Dover and other brand copyright-free
                        clip art you can use in new ways and maybe make some money.

                        --Scott

                        Jenny Detwiler wrote:
                        > Thanks to everyone for all the feedback, I think I was on the right track, but somehow I still feel guilty being inspired by someone else's work. The book titles are: 1000 Greetings-Creative Correspondence Designed for All Occasions by Peter King and Company, and the other is The Best of Letterhead and Logo Design don't see author.........both are also from Rockport Publishers, Inc.
                        > Thanks again!
                        > -Jenny Pierce
                        >
                        > --- On Sat, 6/13/09, Austin Jones <austin@...> wrote:
                        >
                        >
                        > From: Austin Jones <austin@...>
                        > Subject: Re: [PPLetterpress] Design
                        >
                        > My first question to you is "What was your reason for purchasing the
                        > books?". Your reason for purchasing the books will give some sense of
                        > purpose. If you purchased them strictly for inspiration, then I would say
                        > you are on the right track. If you purchased them with the idea of
                        > reproducing them, well then I would suggest there might be a problem.
                        >
                        > We all look outside our own corner for inspiration. That is a healthy way to
                        > keep the mind working. Seeing what someone else is doing and how they
                        > managed to get a particular result, that is what it is all about. I would
                        > think that this is probably the primary reason for the publication in the
                        > first place. These producers have something to say and show. So, look, be
                        > inspired, and go apply their ideas to your own designs.
                        >
                        > BTW: would you care to give us the titles and authors.
                        >
                        > tks
                        >
                        > Austin Jones
                        > prints by AJ
                        > austin@printsbyaj. com
                        > http://printsbyaj. com
                        > ----- Original Message -----
                        > From: "jenny_detwiler" <jenny_detwiler@ yahoo.com>
                        >
                        >> Looking for input on the "correct" way to use a few books that I recently
                        >> purchased. Both are graphic design books that have color pictures of
                        >> invitations, announcements, business cards, logos, and other things like
                        >> that. Where is the line between plagiarism and using these books for
                        >> design ideas? Is changing general layout, color, graphics, paper, ink,
                        >> printing process, information, and font enough to make it your own if you
                        >> got the idea from someone else's work? Thanks for any input!
                        >>
                        >> -Jenny
                      • matthew lamoureux
                        Completely understood. Trust me, like anything, I ve met my fair share of folks with great equipment putting out bad product. Matthew LAMMY Lamoureux Full
                        Message 11 of 15 , Jun 15, 2009
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                          Completely understood. Trust me, like anything, I've met my fair share of folks with great equipment putting out bad product.

                          Matthew "LAMMY" Lamoureux
                          Full Metal Press - Operis servo a specialis nundinae


                          Where the press is free and every man able to read, all is safe.
                          Thomas Jefferson




                          ________________________________
                          From: Harold Kyle <harold@...>
                          To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
                          Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 9:43:26 AM
                          Subject: Re: [PPLetterpress] Re: Introduction





                          This was not done for chemistry reasons. You touched on the problem that we
                          faced with supplied films: many times they weren't even silver emulsion
                          film. For many of our customers, a 'film' means an ink jet or laser
                          transparency, which for our processing is unacceptable and potentially very
                          costly. Even when the films were on silver, we found the variation in
                          quality (through shipping damage or inadequate density) disruptive to our
                          workflow. We have much tighter control over the quality and scheduling of
                          our printing plates by only using our own films. That's not to say that
                          there are many vendors such as yourself who can provide quality film,
                          though. I'm sorry you take offense over our policy, but we do this to
                          increase reliability of our customers' orders.

                          Thanks,
                          Harold
                          Boxcar Press

                          On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:19 AM, matthew lamoureux <lamsland@yahoo. com>wrote:

                          >
                          >
                          > Seriously they no longer accept provided films?? I can kind of see that
                          > with people trying to make "films" on laser printers and inkjets. It's kind
                          > of an insult to guys like me though that have been providing high quality
                          > films to the trades for years. Maybe they're more like us though, just
                          > trying to keep the machines running. Rapid Access chemistry doesn't take
                          > well to sitting around doing a whole lot of nothing.
                          >
                          > Matthew "LAMMY" Lamoureux
                          > Full Metal Press - Operis servo a specialis nundinae
                          >
                          > Where the press is free and every man able to read, all is safe.
                          > Thomas Jefferson
                          >
                          > ____________ _________ _________ __
                          > From: Gerald Lange <Bieler@... <Bieler%40att. net>>
                          > To: PPLetterpress@ yahoogroups. com <PPLetterpress% 40yahoogroups. com>
                          > Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 11:57:42 PM
                          > Subject: [PPLetterpress] Re: Introduction
                          >
                          > Howdy Bob
                          >
                          > Most film negative suppliers these days accept Press Quality PDFs such as
                          > those exported from the various components of the Adobe Creative Suite.
                          > Some, including most photoengravers, will generate from a stat. I wouldn't
                          > recommend a b/w laser print out.
                          >
                          > Boxcar Press makes its own film negatives of your e-file and no longer
                          > accepts third party film or whatever.
                          >
                          > Gerald
                          > http://BielerPress. blogspot. com
                          >
                          > --- In PPLetterpress@ yahoogroups. com, Bob Hopfner <rhopfner@.. .> wrote:
                          > >
                          > > Howdy All,
                          > >
                          > > My name is Bob Hopfner and I am a graphic designer. I've always had an
                          > > affinity for letterpress and have an interest in learning more about
                          > > Letterpress, especially photo polymer as it would allow me to take my
                          > > computer generated art to a very different medium. While I think I
                          > > understand the basics, to say I have a clue what I am doing would
                          > > probably require access to a press and some time in front of it. I'll
                          > > try to chime in when I can especially like answering questions about
                          > > Adobe Creative Suite and other technical issues leading up to plate
                          > making.
                          > >
                          > > Speaking of that anyone know what kind of "input" one of the plate
                          > > makers at Boxcar press takes? a stat? b/w print off a laser printer?
                          > >
                          > > cheers,
                          > >
                          > > Bob Hopfner
                          > >
                          >
                          > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed
                          >

                          --
                          ---
                          Boxcar Press
                          501 W. Fayette St. #222
                          Syracuse, NY 13204
                          www.boxcarpress. com

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                        • Peter Fraterdeus
                          Indeed, as Fred Goudy liked to say... The old guys [gals] stole all the best ideas The cultural context is our common wealth. All intelligent thought and
                          Message 12 of 15 , Jun 15, 2009
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                            Indeed, as Fred Goudy liked to say...
                            "The old guys [gals] stole all the best ideas"

                            The cultural context is our common wealth. All intelligent thought and
                            creative effort comes from a shared experience of language --
                            symbolic, semantic, and visual.

                            There's way too much precocious cleverness and egotistical chest
                            beating in the world already.

                            On the other hand, don't try to copy my typefaces without asking ;-)

                            Peter

                            alphabets.com
                            slowprint.com

                            On 15 Jun 2009, at 10:15 AM, Scott Rubel wrote:

                            > Inspiration is practical. No artist works in a vacuum. You can be
                            > inspired and still be original.
                            >
                            > Of course there are millions of Dover and other brand copyright-free
                            > clip art you can use in new ways and maybe make some money.
                            >
                            > --Scott
                            >
                            > Jenny Detwiler wrote:
                            >> Thanks to everyone for all the feedback, I think I was on the right
                            >> track, but somehow I still feel guilty being inspired by someone
                            >> else's work. The book titles are: 1000 Greetings-Creative
                            >> Correspondence Designed for All Occasions by Peter King and
                            >> Company, and the other is The Best of Letterhead and Logo Design
                            >> don't see author.........both are also from Rockport Publishers, Inc.
                            >> Thanks again!
                            >> -Jenny Pierce
                          • Jenny Detwiler
                            Ha!!  Love the Fred Goudy quote!!  I seem to think some variation of that quote every time I see something new and original.    Thanks for the laugh!
                            Message 13 of 15 , Jun 15, 2009
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                              Ha!!  Love the Fred Goudy quote!!  I seem to think some variation of that quote every time I see something new and original. 
                               
                              Thanks for the laugh!
                              -Jenny

                              --- On Mon, 6/15/09, Peter Fraterdeus <peterf@...> wrote:


                              From: Peter Fraterdeus <peterf@...>
                              Subject: Re: [PPLetterpress] Design
                              To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
                              Date: Monday, June 15, 2009, 10:12 AM








                              Indeed, as Fred Goudy liked to say...
                              "The old guys [gals] stole all the best ideas"

                              The cultural context is our common wealth. All intelligent thought and
                              creative effort comes from a shared experience of language --
                              symbolic, semantic, and visual.

                              There's way too much precocious cleverness and egotistical chest
                              beating in the world already.

                              On the other hand, don't try to copy my typefaces without asking ;-)

                              Peter

                              alphabets.com
                              slowprint.com

                              On 15 Jun 2009, at 10:15 AM, Scott Rubel wrote:

                              > Inspiration is practical. No artist works in a vacuum. You can be
                              > inspired and still be original.
                              >
                              > Of course there are millions of Dover and other brand copyright-free
                              > clip art you can use in new ways and maybe make some money.
                              >
                              > --Scott
                              >
                              > Jenny Detwiler wrote:
                              >> Thanks to everyone for all the feedback, I think I was on the right
                              >> track, but somehow I still feel guilty being inspired by someone
                              >> else's work. The book titles are: 1000 Greetings-Creative
                              >> Correspondence Designed for All Occasions by Peter King and
                              >> Company, and the other is The Best of Letterhead and Logo Design
                              >> don't see author...... ...both are also from Rockport Publishers, Inc.
                              >> Thanks again!
                              >> -Jenny Pierce



















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