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  • jenny_detwiler
    Looking for input on the correct way to use a few books that I recently purchased. Both are graphic design books that have color pictures of invitations,
    Message 1 of 15 , Jun 11 8:15 PM
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      Looking for input on the "correct" way to use a few books that I recently purchased. Both are graphic design books that have color pictures of invitations, announcements, business cards, logos, and other things like that. Where is the line between plagiarism and using these books for design ideas? Is changing general layout, color, graphics, paper, ink, printing process, information, and font enough to make it your own if you got the idea from someone else's work? Thanks for any input!

      -Jenny
    • dorothy lee
      Good morning Jenny, I really don t have any input regarding that about books.  But, hopefully someone will give you some in site.  But, I wanted to know
      Message 2 of 15 , Jun 12 3:59 AM
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        Good morning Jenny, I really don't have any input regarding that about books.  But, hopefully someone will give you some in site.  But, I wanted to know where can I go to purchase a printing machine for t-shirts. My daughter wants to start her own business and she wants to get her own machine.
         
        Thank you

        Dorothy Lee
        DJL90601@...
         

        --- On Thu, 6/11/09, jenny_detwiler <jenny_detwiler@...> wrote:


        From: jenny_detwiler <jenny_detwiler@...>
        Subject: [PPLetterpress] Design
        To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 8:15 PM








        Looking for input on the "correct" way to use a few books that I recently purchased. Both are graphic design books that have color pictures of invitations, announcements, business cards, logos, and other things like that. Where is the line between plagiarism and using these books for design ideas? Is changing general layout, color, graphics, paper, ink, printing process, information, and font enough to make it your own if you got the idea from someone else's work? Thanks for any input!

        -Jenny



















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      • Julie Larson
        You can take inspiration from the ideas and then create a new work of your own using your own style. ________________________________ From: jenny_detwiler
        Message 3 of 15 , Jun 12 8:03 AM
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          You can take inspiration from the ideas and then create a new work of your own using your own style.




          ________________________________
          From: jenny_detwiler <jenny_detwiler@...>
          To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:15:25 PM
          Subject: [PPLetterpress] Design





          Looking for input on the "correct" way to use a few books that I recently purchased. Both are graphic design books that have color pictures of invitations, announcements, business cards, logos, and other things like that. Where is the line between plagiarism and using these books for design ideas? Is changing general layout, color, graphics, paper, ink, printing process, information, and font enough to make it your own if you got the idea from someone else's work? Thanks for any input!

          -Jenny




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        • Casey McGarr
          Jenny, Use the books as reference to help you generate your own ideas. The book store have plenty of patterns and decoration specific books for you to
          Message 4 of 15 , Jun 13 6:43 AM
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            Jenny,

            Use the books as reference to help you generate your own ideas. The book store have plenty of patterns and decoration specific books for you to purchase.

            It's important to look at everything. However, after you absorb all that information how can you design something that has a point of difference. Make it your own and uniquely your design.

            Casey




            --- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, "jenny_detwiler" <jenny_detwiler@...> wrote:
            >
            > Looking for input on the "correct" way to use a few books that I recently purchased. Both are graphic design books that have color pictures of invitations, announcements, business cards, logos, and other things like that. Where is the line between plagiarism and using these books for design ideas? Is changing general layout, color, graphics, paper, ink, printing process, information, and font enough to make it your own if you got the idea from someone else's work? Thanks for any input!
            >
            > -Jenny
            >
          • Austin Jones
            My first question to you is What was your reason for purchasing the books? . Your reason for purchasing the books will give some sense of purpose. If you
            Message 5 of 15 , Jun 13 12:16 PM
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              My first question to you is "What was your reason for purchasing the
              books?". Your reason for purchasing the books will give some sense of
              purpose. If you purchased them strictly for inspiration, then I would say
              you are on the right track. If you purchased them with the idea of
              reproducing them, well then I would suggest there might be a problem.

              We all look outside our own corner for inspiration. That is a healthy way to
              keep the mind working. Seeing what someone else is doing and how they
              managed to get a particular result, that is what it is all about. I would
              think that this is probably the primary reason for the publication in the
              first place. These producers have something to say and show. So, look, be
              inspired, and go apply their ideas to your own designs.

              BTW: would you care to give us the titles and authors.

              tks

              Austin Jones
              prints by AJ
              austin@...
              http://printsbyaj.com
              ----- Original Message -----
              From: "jenny_detwiler" <jenny_detwiler@...>
              To: <PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:15 PM
              Subject: [PPLetterpress] Design


              > Looking for input on the "correct" way to use a few books that I recently
              > purchased. Both are graphic design books that have color pictures of
              > invitations, announcements, business cards, logos, and other things like
              > that. Where is the line between plagiarism and using these books for
              > design ideas? Is changing general layout, color, graphics, paper, ink,
              > printing process, information, and font enough to make it your own if you
              > got the idea from someone else's work? Thanks for any input!
              >
              > -Jenny
              >
              >
              >
              > ------------------------------------
              >
              > Yahoo! Groups Links
              >
              >
              >
            • Jenny Detwiler
              Thanks to everyone for all the feedback, I think I was on the right track, but somehow I still feel guilty being inspired by someone else s work.  The book
              Message 6 of 15 , Jun 13 4:08 PM
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                Thanks to everyone for all the feedback, I think I was on the right track, but somehow I still feel guilty being inspired by someone else's work.  The book titles are:  1000 Greetings-Creative Correspondence Designed for All Occasions by Peter King and Company, and the other is The Best of Letterhead and Logo Design don't see author.........both are also from Rockport Publishers, Inc. 
                Thanks again!
                -Jenny Pierce

                --- On Sat, 6/13/09, Austin Jones <austin@...> wrote:


                From: Austin Jones <austin@...>
                Subject: Re: [PPLetterpress] Design
                To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
                Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 1:16 PM








                My first question to you is "What was your reason for purchasing the
                books?". Your reason for purchasing the books will give some sense of
                purpose. If you purchased them strictly for inspiration, then I would say
                you are on the right track. If you purchased them with the idea of
                reproducing them, well then I would suggest there might be a problem.

                We all look outside our own corner for inspiration. That is a healthy way to
                keep the mind working. Seeing what someone else is doing and how they
                managed to get a particular result, that is what it is all about. I would
                think that this is probably the primary reason for the publication in the
                first place. These producers have something to say and show. So, look, be
                inspired, and go apply their ideas to your own designs.

                BTW: would you care to give us the titles and authors.

                tks

                Austin Jones
                prints by AJ
                austin@printsbyaj. com
                http://printsbyaj. com
                ----- Original Message -----
                From: "jenny_detwiler" <jenny_detwiler@ yahoo.com>
                To: <PPLetterpress@ yahoogroups. com>
                Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:15 PM
                Subject: [PPLetterpress] Design

                > Looking for input on the "correct" way to use a few books that I recently
                > purchased. Both are graphic design books that have color pictures of
                > invitations, announcements, business cards, logos, and other things like
                > that. Where is the line between plagiarism and using these books for
                > design ideas? Is changing general layout, color, graphics, paper, ink,
                > printing process, information, and font enough to make it your own if you
                > got the idea from someone else's work? Thanks for any input!
                >
                > -Jenny
                >
                >
                >
                > ------------ --------- --------- ------
                >
                > Yahoo! Groups Links
                >
                >
                >



















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              • Bob Hopfner
                Howdy All, My name is Bob Hopfner and I am a graphic designer. I ve always had an affinity for letterpress and have an interest in learning more about
                Message 7 of 15 , Jun 13 11:43 PM
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                  Howdy All,

                  My name is Bob Hopfner and I am a graphic designer. I've always had an
                  affinity for letterpress and have an interest in learning more about
                  Letterpress, especially photo polymer as it would allow me to take my
                  computer generated art to a very different medium. While I think I
                  understand the basics, to say I have a clue what I am doing would
                  probably require access to a press and some time in front of it. I'll
                  try to chime in when I can especially like answering questions about
                  Adobe Creative Suite and other technical issues leading up to plate making.

                  Speaking of that anyone know what kind of "input" one of the plate
                  makers at Boxcar press takes? a stat? b/w print off a laser printer?

                  cheers,

                  Bob Hopfner
                • Peter Fraterdeus
                  Hi Bob Take a look here for a variety of FAQs on letterpress including photopolymer https://www.xmarks.com/site/www.fiveroses.org/intro.htm You ll need
                  Message 8 of 15 , Jun 14 3:40 AM
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                    Hi Bob

                    Take a look here for a variety of FAQs on letterpress including
                    photopolymer
                    https://www.xmarks.com/site/www.fiveroses.org/intro.htm

                    You'll need high-density graphic art negatives (Right reading emulsion
                    UP) for making PP plates.
                    A stat camera could make these, but since you're starting with digital
                    art, it makes more sense to have the art rendered on a film-based
                    imagesetter (Linotronic, etc)

                    Cheers

                    PF


                    On 14 Jun 2009, at 1:43 AM, Bob Hopfner wrote:

                    > Howdy All,
                    >
                    > My name is Bob Hopfner and I am a graphic designer. I've always had an
                    > affinity for letterpress and have an interest in learning more about
                    > Letterpress, especially photo polymer as it would allow me to take my
                    > computer generated art to a very different medium. While I think I
                    > understand the basics, to say I have a clue what I am doing would
                    > probably require access to a press and some time in front of it. I'll
                    > try to chime in when I can especially like answering questions about
                    > Adobe Creative Suite and other technical issues leading up to plate
                    > making.
                    >
                    > Speaking of that anyone know what kind of "input" one of the plate
                    > makers at Boxcar press takes? a stat? b/w print off a laser printer?
                    >
                    > cheers,
                    >
                    > Bob Hopfner

                    Peter Fraterdeus
                    Exquisite Letterpress
                    http://slowprint.com/
                  • Gerald Lange
                    Howdy Bob Most film negative suppliers these days accept Press Quality PDFs such as those exported from the various components of the Adobe Creative Suite.
                    Message 9 of 15 , Jun 14 8:57 PM
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                      Howdy Bob

                      Most film negative suppliers these days accept Press Quality PDFs such as those exported from the various components of the Adobe Creative Suite. Some, including most photoengravers, will generate from a stat. I wouldn't recommend a b/w laser print out.

                      Boxcar Press makes its own film negatives of your e-file and no longer accepts third party film or whatever.

                      Gerald
                      http://BielerPress.blogspot.com


                      --- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, Bob Hopfner <rhopfner@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > Howdy All,
                      >
                      > My name is Bob Hopfner and I am a graphic designer. I've always had an
                      > affinity for letterpress and have an interest in learning more about
                      > Letterpress, especially photo polymer as it would allow me to take my
                      > computer generated art to a very different medium. While I think I
                      > understand the basics, to say I have a clue what I am doing would
                      > probably require access to a press and some time in front of it. I'll
                      > try to chime in when I can especially like answering questions about
                      > Adobe Creative Suite and other technical issues leading up to plate making.
                      >
                      > Speaking of that anyone know what kind of "input" one of the plate
                      > makers at Boxcar press takes? a stat? b/w print off a laser printer?
                      >
                      > cheers,
                      >
                      > Bob Hopfner
                      >
                    • matthew lamoureux
                      Seriously they no longer accept provided films?? I can kind of see that with people trying to make films on laser printers and inkjets. It s kind of an
                      Message 10 of 15 , Jun 15 5:19 AM
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                        Seriously they no longer accept provided films?? I can kind of see that with people trying to make "films" on laser printers and inkjets. It's kind of an insult to guys like me though that have been providing high quality films to the trades for years. Maybe they're more like us though, just trying to keep the machines running. Rapid Access chemistry doesn't take well to sitting around doing a whole lot of nothing.

                        Matthew "LAMMY" Lamoureux
                        Full Metal Press - Operis servo a specialis nundinae


                        Where the press is free and every man able to read, all is safe.
                        Thomas Jefferson




                        ________________________________
                        From: Gerald Lange <Bieler@...>
                        To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
                        Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 11:57:42 PM
                        Subject: [PPLetterpress] Re: Introduction





                        Howdy Bob

                        Most film negative suppliers these days accept Press Quality PDFs such as those exported from the various components of the Adobe Creative Suite. Some, including most photoengravers, will generate from a stat. I wouldn't recommend a b/w laser print out.

                        Boxcar Press makes its own film negatives of your e-file and no longer accepts third party film or whatever.

                        Gerald
                        http://BielerPress. blogspot. com

                        --- In PPLetterpress@ yahoogroups. com, Bob Hopfner <rhopfner@.. .> wrote:
                        >
                        > Howdy All,
                        >
                        > My name is Bob Hopfner and I am a graphic designer. I've always had an
                        > affinity for letterpress and have an interest in learning more about
                        > Letterpress, especially photo polymer as it would allow me to take my
                        > computer generated art to a very different medium. While I think I
                        > understand the basics, to say I have a clue what I am doing would
                        > probably require access to a press and some time in front of it. I'll
                        > try to chime in when I can especially like answering questions about
                        > Adobe Creative Suite and other technical issues leading up to plate making.
                        >
                        > Speaking of that anyone know what kind of "input" one of the plate
                        > makers at Boxcar press takes? a stat? b/w print off a laser printer?
                        >
                        > cheers,
                        >
                        > Bob Hopfner
                        >







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                      • Harold Kyle
                        This was not done for chemistry reasons. You touched on the problem that we faced with supplied films: many times they weren t even silver emulsion film. For
                        Message 11 of 15 , Jun 15 6:43 AM
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                          This was not done for chemistry reasons. You touched on the problem that we
                          faced with supplied films: many times they weren't even silver emulsion
                          film. For many of our customers, a 'film' means an ink jet or laser
                          transparency, which for our processing is unacceptable and potentially very
                          costly. Even when the films were on silver, we found the variation in
                          quality (through shipping damage or inadequate density) disruptive to our
                          workflow. We have much tighter control over the quality and scheduling of
                          our printing plates by only using our own films. That's not to say that
                          there are many vendors such as yourself who can provide quality film,
                          though. I'm sorry you take offense over our policy, but we do this to
                          increase reliability of our customers' orders.

                          Thanks,
                          Harold
                          Boxcar Press



                          On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:19 AM, matthew lamoureux <lamsland@...>wrote:

                          >
                          >
                          > Seriously they no longer accept provided films?? I can kind of see that
                          > with people trying to make "films" on laser printers and inkjets. It's kind
                          > of an insult to guys like me though that have been providing high quality
                          > films to the trades for years. Maybe they're more like us though, just
                          > trying to keep the machines running. Rapid Access chemistry doesn't take
                          > well to sitting around doing a whole lot of nothing.
                          >
                          > Matthew "LAMMY" Lamoureux
                          > Full Metal Press - Operis servo a specialis nundinae
                          >
                          > Where the press is free and every man able to read, all is safe.
                          > Thomas Jefferson
                          >
                          > ________________________________
                          > From: Gerald Lange <Bieler@... <Bieler%40att.net>>
                          > To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com <PPLetterpress%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 11:57:42 PM
                          > Subject: [PPLetterpress] Re: Introduction
                          >
                          > Howdy Bob
                          >
                          > Most film negative suppliers these days accept Press Quality PDFs such as
                          > those exported from the various components of the Adobe Creative Suite.
                          > Some, including most photoengravers, will generate from a stat. I wouldn't
                          > recommend a b/w laser print out.
                          >
                          > Boxcar Press makes its own film negatives of your e-file and no longer
                          > accepts third party film or whatever.
                          >
                          > Gerald
                          > http://BielerPress. blogspot. com
                          >
                          > --- In PPLetterpress@ yahoogroups. com, Bob Hopfner <rhopfner@.. .> wrote:
                          > >
                          > > Howdy All,
                          > >
                          > > My name is Bob Hopfner and I am a graphic designer. I've always had an
                          > > affinity for letterpress and have an interest in learning more about
                          > > Letterpress, especially photo polymer as it would allow me to take my
                          > > computer generated art to a very different medium. While I think I
                          > > understand the basics, to say I have a clue what I am doing would
                          > > probably require access to a press and some time in front of it. I'll
                          > > try to chime in when I can especially like answering questions about
                          > > Adobe Creative Suite and other technical issues leading up to plate
                          > making.
                          > >
                          > > Speaking of that anyone know what kind of "input" one of the plate
                          > > makers at Boxcar press takes? a stat? b/w print off a laser printer?
                          > >
                          > > cheers,
                          > >
                          > > Bob Hopfner
                          > >
                          >
                          > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed
                          >



                          --
                          ---
                          Boxcar Press
                          501 W. Fayette St. #222
                          Syracuse, NY 13204
                          www.boxcarpress.com


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                        • Scott Rubel
                          Inspiration is practical. No artist works in a vacuum. You can be inspired and still be original. Of course there are millions of Dover and other brand
                          Message 12 of 15 , Jun 15 8:15 AM
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                            Inspiration is practical. No artist works in a vacuum. You can be
                            inspired and still be original.

                            Of course there are millions of Dover and other brand copyright-free
                            clip art you can use in new ways and maybe make some money.

                            --Scott

                            Jenny Detwiler wrote:
                            > Thanks to everyone for all the feedback, I think I was on the right track, but somehow I still feel guilty being inspired by someone else's work. The book titles are: 1000 Greetings-Creative Correspondence Designed for All Occasions by Peter King and Company, and the other is The Best of Letterhead and Logo Design don't see author.........both are also from Rockport Publishers, Inc.
                            > Thanks again!
                            > -Jenny Pierce
                            >
                            > --- On Sat, 6/13/09, Austin Jones <austin@...> wrote:
                            >
                            >
                            > From: Austin Jones <austin@...>
                            > Subject: Re: [PPLetterpress] Design
                            >
                            > My first question to you is "What was your reason for purchasing the
                            > books?". Your reason for purchasing the books will give some sense of
                            > purpose. If you purchased them strictly for inspiration, then I would say
                            > you are on the right track. If you purchased them with the idea of
                            > reproducing them, well then I would suggest there might be a problem.
                            >
                            > We all look outside our own corner for inspiration. That is a healthy way to
                            > keep the mind working. Seeing what someone else is doing and how they
                            > managed to get a particular result, that is what it is all about. I would
                            > think that this is probably the primary reason for the publication in the
                            > first place. These producers have something to say and show. So, look, be
                            > inspired, and go apply their ideas to your own designs.
                            >
                            > BTW: would you care to give us the titles and authors.
                            >
                            > tks
                            >
                            > Austin Jones
                            > prints by AJ
                            > austin@printsbyaj. com
                            > http://printsbyaj. com
                            > ----- Original Message -----
                            > From: "jenny_detwiler" <jenny_detwiler@ yahoo.com>
                            >
                            >> Looking for input on the "correct" way to use a few books that I recently
                            >> purchased. Both are graphic design books that have color pictures of
                            >> invitations, announcements, business cards, logos, and other things like
                            >> that. Where is the line between plagiarism and using these books for
                            >> design ideas? Is changing general layout, color, graphics, paper, ink,
                            >> printing process, information, and font enough to make it your own if you
                            >> got the idea from someone else's work? Thanks for any input!
                            >>
                            >> -Jenny
                          • matthew lamoureux
                            Completely understood. Trust me, like anything, I ve met my fair share of folks with great equipment putting out bad product. Matthew LAMMY Lamoureux Full
                            Message 13 of 15 , Jun 15 9:07 AM
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                              Completely understood. Trust me, like anything, I've met my fair share of folks with great equipment putting out bad product.

                              Matthew "LAMMY" Lamoureux
                              Full Metal Press - Operis servo a specialis nundinae


                              Where the press is free and every man able to read, all is safe.
                              Thomas Jefferson




                              ________________________________
                              From: Harold Kyle <harold@...>
                              To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
                              Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 9:43:26 AM
                              Subject: Re: [PPLetterpress] Re: Introduction





                              This was not done for chemistry reasons. You touched on the problem that we
                              faced with supplied films: many times they weren't even silver emulsion
                              film. For many of our customers, a 'film' means an ink jet or laser
                              transparency, which for our processing is unacceptable and potentially very
                              costly. Even when the films were on silver, we found the variation in
                              quality (through shipping damage or inadequate density) disruptive to our
                              workflow. We have much tighter control over the quality and scheduling of
                              our printing plates by only using our own films. That's not to say that
                              there are many vendors such as yourself who can provide quality film,
                              though. I'm sorry you take offense over our policy, but we do this to
                              increase reliability of our customers' orders.

                              Thanks,
                              Harold
                              Boxcar Press

                              On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:19 AM, matthew lamoureux <lamsland@yahoo. com>wrote:

                              >
                              >
                              > Seriously they no longer accept provided films?? I can kind of see that
                              > with people trying to make "films" on laser printers and inkjets. It's kind
                              > of an insult to guys like me though that have been providing high quality
                              > films to the trades for years. Maybe they're more like us though, just
                              > trying to keep the machines running. Rapid Access chemistry doesn't take
                              > well to sitting around doing a whole lot of nothing.
                              >
                              > Matthew "LAMMY" Lamoureux
                              > Full Metal Press - Operis servo a specialis nundinae
                              >
                              > Where the press is free and every man able to read, all is safe.
                              > Thomas Jefferson
                              >
                              > ____________ _________ _________ __
                              > From: Gerald Lange <Bieler@... <Bieler%40att. net>>
                              > To: PPLetterpress@ yahoogroups. com <PPLetterpress% 40yahoogroups. com>
                              > Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 11:57:42 PM
                              > Subject: [PPLetterpress] Re: Introduction
                              >
                              > Howdy Bob
                              >
                              > Most film negative suppliers these days accept Press Quality PDFs such as
                              > those exported from the various components of the Adobe Creative Suite.
                              > Some, including most photoengravers, will generate from a stat. I wouldn't
                              > recommend a b/w laser print out.
                              >
                              > Boxcar Press makes its own film negatives of your e-file and no longer
                              > accepts third party film or whatever.
                              >
                              > Gerald
                              > http://BielerPress. blogspot. com
                              >
                              > --- In PPLetterpress@ yahoogroups. com, Bob Hopfner <rhopfner@.. .> wrote:
                              > >
                              > > Howdy All,
                              > >
                              > > My name is Bob Hopfner and I am a graphic designer. I've always had an
                              > > affinity for letterpress and have an interest in learning more about
                              > > Letterpress, especially photo polymer as it would allow me to take my
                              > > computer generated art to a very different medium. While I think I
                              > > understand the basics, to say I have a clue what I am doing would
                              > > probably require access to a press and some time in front of it. I'll
                              > > try to chime in when I can especially like answering questions about
                              > > Adobe Creative Suite and other technical issues leading up to plate
                              > making.
                              > >
                              > > Speaking of that anyone know what kind of "input" one of the plate
                              > > makers at Boxcar press takes? a stat? b/w print off a laser printer?
                              > >
                              > > cheers,
                              > >
                              > > Bob Hopfner
                              > >
                              >
                              > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed
                              >

                              --
                              ---
                              Boxcar Press
                              501 W. Fayette St. #222
                              Syracuse, NY 13204
                              www.boxcarpress. com

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                            • Peter Fraterdeus
                              Indeed, as Fred Goudy liked to say... The old guys [gals] stole all the best ideas The cultural context is our common wealth. All intelligent thought and
                              Message 14 of 15 , Jun 15 9:12 AM
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                                Indeed, as Fred Goudy liked to say...
                                "The old guys [gals] stole all the best ideas"

                                The cultural context is our common wealth. All intelligent thought and
                                creative effort comes from a shared experience of language --
                                symbolic, semantic, and visual.

                                There's way too much precocious cleverness and egotistical chest
                                beating in the world already.

                                On the other hand, don't try to copy my typefaces without asking ;-)

                                Peter

                                alphabets.com
                                slowprint.com

                                On 15 Jun 2009, at 10:15 AM, Scott Rubel wrote:

                                > Inspiration is practical. No artist works in a vacuum. You can be
                                > inspired and still be original.
                                >
                                > Of course there are millions of Dover and other brand copyright-free
                                > clip art you can use in new ways and maybe make some money.
                                >
                                > --Scott
                                >
                                > Jenny Detwiler wrote:
                                >> Thanks to everyone for all the feedback, I think I was on the right
                                >> track, but somehow I still feel guilty being inspired by someone
                                >> else's work. The book titles are: 1000 Greetings-Creative
                                >> Correspondence Designed for All Occasions by Peter King and
                                >> Company, and the other is The Best of Letterhead and Logo Design
                                >> don't see author.........both are also from Rockport Publishers, Inc.
                                >> Thanks again!
                                >> -Jenny Pierce
                              • Jenny Detwiler
                                Ha!!  Love the Fred Goudy quote!!  I seem to think some variation of that quote every time I see something new and original.    Thanks for the laugh!
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                                  Ha!!  Love the Fred Goudy quote!!  I seem to think some variation of that quote every time I see something new and original. 
                                   
                                  Thanks for the laugh!
                                  -Jenny

                                  --- On Mon, 6/15/09, Peter Fraterdeus <peterf@...> wrote:


                                  From: Peter Fraterdeus <peterf@...>
                                  Subject: Re: [PPLetterpress] Design
                                  To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
                                  Date: Monday, June 15, 2009, 10:12 AM








                                  Indeed, as Fred Goudy liked to say...
                                  "The old guys [gals] stole all the best ideas"

                                  The cultural context is our common wealth. All intelligent thought and
                                  creative effort comes from a shared experience of language --
                                  symbolic, semantic, and visual.

                                  There's way too much precocious cleverness and egotistical chest
                                  beating in the world already.

                                  On the other hand, don't try to copy my typefaces without asking ;-)

                                  Peter

                                  alphabets.com
                                  slowprint.com

                                  On 15 Jun 2009, at 10:15 AM, Scott Rubel wrote:

                                  > Inspiration is practical. No artist works in a vacuum. You can be
                                  > inspired and still be original.
                                  >
                                  > Of course there are millions of Dover and other brand copyright-free
                                  > clip art you can use in new ways and maybe make some money.
                                  >
                                  > --Scott
                                  >
                                  > Jenny Detwiler wrote:
                                  >> Thanks to everyone for all the feedback, I think I was on the right
                                  >> track, but somehow I still feel guilty being inspired by someone
                                  >> else's work. The book titles are: 1000 Greetings-Creative
                                  >> Correspondence Designed for All Occasions by Peter King and
                                  >> Company, and the other is The Best of Letterhead and Logo Design
                                  >> don't see author...... ...both are also from Rockport Publishers, Inc.
                                  >> Thanks again!
                                  >> -Jenny Pierce



















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