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  • Gerald Lange
    Erik Yes, earlier versions of Photoshop did have have a limitation. I remember going to within pixels of it and it was torturous. I didn t have a problem
    Message 1 of 14 , Apr 5, 2009
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      Erik

      Yes, earlier versions of Photoshop did have have a limitation. I remember going to within pixels of it and it was torturous. I didn't have a problem whatsoever with these in Photoshop CS3.3 but the publisher did tell me he could not even open them.

      This type of scan is different as it is capturing pixels accurately without interpolation, and from what I can tell, through different passes. From what I know about it or can make sense of it! At any rate, it really rocks. Don't think I would use it for the everyday but for large format, really, really have to have the detail, it certainly is an answer, no matter what the cost.

      Gerald
      http://BielerPress.blogspot.com


      --- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, "Erik Desmyter" <erik.desmyter@...> wrote:
      >
      > I remember when experimenting with large size high resolution flatbed
      > scanning a few years ago that software like Adobe Photoshop was limited to
      > images with a length (or width) of maximum 30,000 pixels or dots. But a high
      > resolution A3 flatbed scanner could go higher at for example 16.5" x 2400
      > dpi so the software was then sometimes a limiting factor. Not sure what the
      > situation is today on software when talking about these huge files.
      >
      > The Wikipedia example says "the resulting image would be 10,000 x 10,000, or
      > 100 million pixels with full color information for each pixel. The final
      > image size would be 10,000 pixels x 10,000 pixels x 48 bit per pixel /8 bits
      > per byte = 600 megabytes". Maybe I am wrong but wouldn't such a "scan back"
      > camera image be similar in quality to a traditional 16.66" x 16.66"
      > (flatbed) scan at 600 dpi - 48 bits RGB?
      >
      > Regards,
      > Erik
      >
    • Scott Rubel
      Parsons Paper Mill burnt down in June last year. Are you still using some local facility? Congratulations on getting this out. I look forward to the samples.
      Message 2 of 14 , Apr 5, 2009
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        Parsons Paper Mill burnt down in June last year. Are you still using
        some local facility? Congratulations on getting this out. I look
        forward to the samples. --Scott

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      • lamsland1@comcast.net
        A high end drum scanner could have scanner could have accomplished the same thing. Every high end production scanner I know of scans both reflective and
        Message 3 of 14 , Apr 6, 2009
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          A high end drum scanner could have scanner could have accomplished the same thing. Every high end production scanner I know of scans both reflective and transmissive originals. Most, especially later models, did insanely high resolution and enlargement as well.

          The big advantage using a high end camera like this is you don't need to mount the original to a drum. This is typically done with a release adhesive tape, and always amounts to some bit of damage to the original. It can be mounted by sandwiching it between the drum and a sheet of optically clear mylar, but this inevitably reduces the quality of the scan. There is also the chance to stretch the original while trying to get a tight mount. Very large or stiff originals are also quite difficult to mount, even with a mounting rig.

          Very cool job though Gerald, I'd love to see more photos of the printed pieces.

          Matthew "LAMMY" Lamoureux
          Full Metal Press - Operis servo a specialis nundinae

          Where the press is free and every man able to read, all is safe.
          Thomas Jefferson




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        • Paul Watry
          The mounting for a high end drummer scan is critical. 35mm film works well particularly with gel, but 5 x 4 is typically too large to gel mount without a
          Message 4 of 14 , Apr 6, 2009
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            The mounting for a high end drummer scan is critical. 35mm film
            works well particularly with gel, but 5 x 4 is typically too large to
            gel mount without a special mounting unit. I refer to the Tango drum
            scanner that we bought from Heidelberg, which comes with its own
            mounting station not entirely suitable for 5 x 4; anyone considering
            this as a solution should check.

            Paul


            On 6 Apr 2009, at 13:44, lamsland1@... wrote:

            > A high end drum scanner could have scanner could have accomplished
            > the same thing. Every high end production scanner I know of scans
            > both reflective and transmissive originals. Most, especially later
            > models, did insanely high resolution and enlargement as well.
            >
            > The big advantage using a high end camera like this is you don't
            > need to mount the original to a drum. This is typically done with a
            > release adhesive tape, and always amounts to some bit of damage to
            > the original. It can be mounted by sandwiching it between the drum
            > and a sheet of optically clear mylar, but this inevitably reduces
            > the quality of the scan. There is also the chance to stretch the
            > original while trying to get a tight mount. Very large or stiff
            > originals are also quite difficult to mount, even with a mounting rig.
            >
            > Very cool job though Gerald, I'd love to see more photos of the
            > printed pieces.
            >
            > Matthew "LAMMY" Lamoureux
            > Full Metal Press - Operis servo a specialis nundinae
            >
            > Where the press is free and every man able to read, all is safe.
            > Thomas Jefferson
            >
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            >
            >
            >



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          • lamsland1@comcast.net
            The two scanners I m familar with were and older Screen, I forget the model now. It was the kind with no computer attached to it and imaged directly to film
            Message 5 of 14 , Apr 6, 2009
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              The two scanners I'm familar with were and older Screen, I forget the model now. It was the kind with no computer attached to it and imaged directly to film for the most part. Rows and rows of dials to adjust the color on the scan. The other was a monster Crossfield. The "big" drum on it could mount something in the size of 20 x 22 iirc. We did do some oil mounts on chromes larger than 4 x 6. Again I forget for what, I just remember it being a serious PIA, took two people, and that was with a NICE mounting station.

              Matthew "LAMMY" Lamoureux
              Full Metal Press - Operis servo a specialis nundinae

              Where the press is free and every man able to read, all is safe.
              Thomas Jefferson

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            • Gerald Lange
              Lammy Thanks. The publisher sent me the photo but I did not ask for more. Probably not too cool for me to do so. They have their own method for marketing this
              Message 6 of 14 , Apr 12, 2009
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                Lammy

                Thanks. The publisher sent me the photo but I did not ask for more. Probably not too cool for me to do so. They have their own method for marketing this stuff. Sort of like the US Treasury with their special coins. I actually do that as well, except instead of a couple of weeks or so to buy the item I put mine up for eternity. Their way is much better but I have little choice in the matter (with my stuff) :—)

                At any rate, the right scans & negs, plates/base, ink, paper, and my sweetie pie of a press (with her new rollers); wasn't much else for me to do except crank her.

                http://BielerPress.blogspot.com


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                > Very cool job though Gerald, I'd love to see more photos of the printed pieces.
                >
                > Matthew "LAMMY" Lamoureux
                > Full Metal Press - Operis servo a specialis nundinae
                >
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