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  • vanhorn_k
    ... present. ... Yeah, I think our thermostat is broken. We got one of the first of these models available in the country... I ve dismantled it once or twice
    Message 1 of 19 , Jan 11, 2009
      > Wow, that's pretty extreme. I've only worked with BASF and Polimero machines, and neither
      > had such a high temperature that you couldn't leave them on all day with minimal
      > evaporation, at least with the lid closed. The Polimero machine has a safety that shuts off
      > power if bath reaches a certain heat, as when someone turns it on without any water
      present.
      > --Eric Holub, SF
      >

      Yeah, I think our thermostat is broken. We got one of the first of these models available in
      the country... I've dismantled it once or twice already. Clearly we've decided it's not a big
      deal.
    • Lamsland
      great discussion guys. Thanks. My concern about the temp is I ll either have to get a mixing panel or just try and get it close with a thermometer and the
      Message 2 of 19 , Jan 12, 2009
        great discussion guys. Thanks. My concern about the temp is I'll
        either have to get a mixing panel or just try and get it close with a
        thermometer and the spigots. I'm sure the hot water in the house is
        hot enough (120 degrees) I was more curious how precise it needed to be.

        As for brushes, I can get an old matchprint developer/laminator
        machine. The small table top kind. O know it's not made for this use,
        but I like to tinker with machines and though it would be interesting
        to experiment with. Thus the question if rotary bushes would work.

        Matthew "LAMMY" Lamoureux
        Full Metal Press - Operis servo a specialis nundinae

        Where the press is free and every man able to read, all is safe.
        Thomas Jefferson

        On Jan 11, 2009, at 10:48 PM, vanhorn_k wrote:

        >
        > > Wow, that's pretty extreme. I've only worked with BASF and
        > Polimero machines, and neither
        > > had such a high temperature that you couldn't leave them on all
        > day with minimal
        > > evaporation, at least with the lid closed. The Polimero machine
        > has a safety that shuts off
        > > power if bath reaches a certain heat, as when someone turns it on
        > without any water
        > present.
        > > --Eric Holub, SF
        > >
        >
        > Yeah, I think our thermostat is broken. We got one of the first of
        > these models available in
        > the country... I've dismantled it once or twice already. Clearly
        > we've decided it's not a big
        > deal.
        >
        >
        >







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      • John G. Henry
        1. Water Temp -- Dan Mayer demonstrated his methods of plate development over the weekend at the College Book Arts Assoc. 1st Biennial Conference in Iowa City,
        Message 3 of 19 , Jan 12, 2009
          1. Water Temp -- Dan Mayer demonstrated his methods of plate
          development over the weekend at the College Book Arts Assoc. 1st
          Biennial Conference in Iowa City, IA. He indicated that he washed out
          his plates by hand using a stainless photographic developing tray in a
          sink with warm water running, in order to keep the temp somewhat
          consistent. (Same process used in photo print development by hand.)

          As to the motion of the brushes, or plate above the brushes, I assume
          the orbital motion eliminates the chance for individual brush tufts to
          continually interact with the same plate areas, causing the potential
          for brush action to be more aggressive in a circular pattern. When
          washing by hand, you would be wise to imitate the action of the machine
          and not use totally circular or horizontal & vertical strokes on a
          consistent basis.
        • Peter Fraterdeus
          ... Hi, John Sorry I missed Dan s demo on Saturday. I wonder if he has any online material for reference? I was interested in his use of stochastic patterns in
          Message 4 of 19 , Jan 12, 2009
            On 12 Jan 2009, at 8:48 AM, John G. Henry wrote:

            > 1. Water Temp -- Dan Mayer demonstrated his methods of plate
            > development over the weekend at the College Book Arts Assoc. 1st
            > Biennial Conference in Iowa City, IA. He indicated that he washed out
            > his plates by hand using a stainless photographic developing tray in a
            > sink with warm water running, in order to keep the temp somewhat
            > consistent. (Same process used in photo print development by hand.)

            Hi, John

            Sorry I missed Dan's demo on Saturday.
            I wonder if he has any online material for reference?
            I was interested in his use of stochastic patterns in Photoshop.

            Cheers
            PF


            Peter Fraterdeus
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          • Scott Golem
            Hi, I just got involved with the PPLetterpress mailing list/running forum. I come from an intaglio and silkscreen art background. I am a little slow at text
            Message 5 of 19 , Jan 15, 2009
              Hi,

              I just got involved with the PPLetterpress mailing list/running forum. I come from an intaglio and silkscreen art background. I am a little slow at text messaging, blogging etc.

              The emails that I'm getting seem to be the answer to a question. How do you follow the trail backwards to get the whole story. Welcome to the 21 century.

              SCott

              Scott Golem, MFA Graphic Designer and Educator www.sgolem@... slgolem1@... 972-617-3864


              --- On Mon, 1/12/09, John G. Henry <JohnH@...> wrote:

              > From: John G. Henry <JohnH@...>
              > Subject: [PPLetterpress] Re: Wash out temp and brushes
              > To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
              > Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 8:48 AM
              > 1. Water Temp -- Dan Mayer demonstrated his methods of plate
              >
              > development over the weekend at the College Book Arts
              > Assoc. 1st
              > Biennial Conference in Iowa City, IA. He indicated that he
              > washed out
              > his plates by hand using a stainless photographic
              > developing tray in a
              > sink with warm water running, in order to keep the temp
              > somewhat
              > consistent. (Same process used in photo print development
              > by hand.)
              >
              > As to the motion of the brushes, or plate above the
              > brushes, I assume
              > the orbital motion eliminates the chance for individual
              > brush tufts to
              > continually interact with the same plate areas, causing the
              > potential
              > for brush action to be more aggressive in a circular
              > pattern. When
              > washing by hand, you would be wise to imitate the action of
              > the machine
              > and not use totally circular or horizontal & vertical
              > strokes on a
              > consistent basis.
            • Lamsland
              easiest way is to actually go to yahoo s site. Find the groups link, then find the only for PPLetterpress. All the messages are there and you can do a search.
              Message 6 of 19 , Jan 15, 2009
                easiest way is to actually go to yahoo's site. Find the groups link,
                then find the only for PPLetterpress. All the messages are there and
                you can do a search. .


                Matthew "LAMMY" Lamoureux
                Full Metal Press - Operis servo a specialis nundinae

                Where the press is free and every man able to read, all is safe.
                Thomas Jefferson

                On Jan 15, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Scott Golem wrote:

                > Hi,
                >
                > I just got involved with the PPLetterpress mailing list/running
                > forum. I come from an intaglio and silkscreen art background. I am
                > a little slow at text messaging, blogging etc.
                >
                > The emails that I'm getting seem to be the answer to a question.
                > How do you follow the trail backwards to get the whole story.
                > Welcome to the 21 century.
                >
                > SCott
                >
                > Scott Golem, MFA Graphic Designer and Educator
                > www.sgolem@...1@... 972-617-3864
                >
                > --- On Mon, 1/12/09, John G. Henry <JohnH@...> wrote:
                >
                > > From: John G. Henry <JohnH@...>
                > > Subject: [PPLetterpress] Re: Wash out temp and brushes
                > > To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
                > > Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 8:48 AM
                > > 1. Water Temp -- Dan Mayer demonstrated his methods of plate
                > >
                > > development over the weekend at the College Book Arts
                > > Assoc. 1st
                > > Biennial Conference in Iowa City, IA. He indicated that he
                > > washed out
                > > his plates by hand using a stainless photographic
                > > developing tray in a
                > > sink with warm water running, in order to keep the temp
                > > somewhat
                > > consistent. (Same process used in photo print development
                > > by hand.)
                > >
                > > As to the motion of the brushes, or plate above the
                > > brushes, I assume
                > > the orbital motion eliminates the chance for individual
                > > brush tufts to
                > > continually interact with the same plate areas, causing the
                > > potential
                > > for brush action to be more aggressive in a circular
                > > pattern. When
                > > washing by hand, you would be wise to imitate the action of
                > > the machine
                > > and not use totally circular or horizontal & vertical
                > > strokes on a
                > > consistent basis.
                >
                >





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              • Gerald Lange
                Scott Go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PPLetterpress Sign in (you wll need a Yahoo ID), then click on Messages (side panel). This will bring up current
                Message 7 of 19 , Jan 15, 2009
                  Scott

                  Go to

                  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PPLetterpress

                  Sign in (you wll need a Yahoo ID), then click on Messages (side panel).
                  This will bring up current messages (as well as a search box). You can
                  click on a message and its complete thread will be indexed below it.

                  Gerald
                  PPL

                  Scott Golem wrote:
                  > Hi,
                  >
                  > I just got involved with the PPLetterpress mailing list/running forum. I come from an intaglio and silkscreen art background. I am a little slow at text messaging, blogging etc.
                  >
                  > The emails that I'm getting seem to be the answer to a question. How do you follow the trail backwards to get the whole story. Welcome to the 21 century.
                  >
                  > SCott
                  >
                  > Scott Golem, MFA Graphic Designer and Educator www.sgolem@... slgolem1@... 972-617-3864
                  >
                  >
                  >
                • Scott Golem
                  Gerald, Thanks for the info. I ll try it tomorrow. Scott Scott Golem, MFA Graphic Designer and Educator www.sgolem@westwood.edu slgolem1@sbcglobal.net
                  Message 8 of 19 , Jan 15, 2009
                    Gerald,

                    Thanks for the info. I'll try it tomorrow.

                    Scott

                    Scott Golem, MFA Graphic Designer and Educator www.sgolem@... slgolem1@... 972-617-3864


                    --- On Thu, 1/15/09, Gerald Lange <Bieler@...> wrote:

                    > From: Gerald Lange <Bieler@...>
                    > Subject: Re: [PPLetterpress] Re: Wash out temp and brushes
                    > To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
                    > Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 11:23 AM
                    > Scott
                    >
                    > Go to
                    >
                    > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PPLetterpress
                    >
                    > Sign in (you wll need a Yahoo ID), then click on Messages
                    > (side panel).
                    > This will bring up current messages (as well as a search
                    > box). You can
                    > click on a message and its complete thread will be indexed
                    > below it.
                    >
                    > Gerald
                    > PPL
                    >
                    > Scott Golem wrote:
                    > > Hi,
                    > >
                    > > I just got involved with the PPLetterpress mailing
                    > list/running forum. I come from an intaglio and silkscreen
                    > art background. I am a little slow at text messaging,
                    > blogging etc.
                    > >
                    > > The emails that I'm getting seem to be the answer
                    > to a question. How do you follow the trail backwards to get
                    > the whole story. Welcome to the 21 century.
                    > >
                    > > SCott
                    > >
                    > > Scott Golem, MFA Graphic Designer and Educator
                    > www.sgolem@... slgolem1@...
                    > 972-617-3864
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                  • Graham and Kathy
                    ... Boy oh boy, don t you wish that was true! Graham Moss Incline Press 36 Bow Street Oldham OL1 1SJ England http://www.inclinepress.com
                    Message 9 of 19 , Jan 16, 2009
                      On 15/1/09 15:08, "Lamsland" <lamsland1@...> wrote:

                      > Where the press is free and every man able to read, all is safe.
                      > Thomas Jefferson


                      Boy oh boy, don't you wish that was true!


                      Graham Moss

                      Incline Press
                      36 Bow Street
                      Oldham OL1 1SJ England

                      http://www.inclinepress.com
                    • Lamsland
                      instead of able to read maybe he should have said bothers to read ??? ;) ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                      Message 10 of 19 , Jan 16, 2009
                        instead of able to read maybe he should have said "bothers to
                        read" ??? ;)


                        On Jan 16, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Graham and Kathy wrote:

                        >
                        >
                        > On 15/1/09 15:08, "Lamsland" <lamsland1@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > > Where the press is free and every man able to read, all is safe.
                        > > Thomas Jefferson
                        >
                        > Boy oh boy, don't you wish that was true!
                        >
                        > Graham Moss
                        >
                        > Incline Press
                        > 36 Bow Street
                        > Oldham OL1 1SJ England
                        >
                        > http://www.inclinepress.com
                        >
                        >



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