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Re: [PPLetterpress] Re: Letterpress economics

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  • Lamsland
    I don t do any business with regards to letterpress, I do however work for two commercial shops and can comment on the feeling in there at those. One is
    Message 1 of 11 , Dec 2, 2008
      I don't do any business with regards to letterpress, I do however
      work for two commercial shops and can comment on the feeling in there
      at those. One is looking to be bought up, the other has laid off at
      least two people every couple of months since summer. It's not even
      half as busy at that shop as it was two years ago and no one, not
      even sales reps, have good things to say about the coming future.
      Clients like hospitals and other big corporations are cutting way
      back. Orders now are commonly in the hundreds to a thousand, but
      they're ordering more often. As always getting paid is the biggest
      crutch we face.

      I wanna know when it was printers stopped taking a third up front, a
      third on deliver and a third in 30 days and started trying to be banks??


      Matthew "LAMMY" Lamoureux
      Full Metal Press - Operis servo a specialis nundinae

      Where the press is free and every man able to read, all is safe.
      Thomas Jefferson

      On Dec 2, 2008, at 2:46 PM, Barbara Hauser wrote:

      > Hi Gerald and all,
      >
      > I'm just a hobby printer so I don't have a business to report on.
      > However, I'm always in the market for type and other studio equipment,
      > and I'm getting the impression that prices are considerably lower than
      > they have been. I'm getting like-new fonts of ATF type for $30,
      > whereas they use to go for at least $50. But maybe everyone's
      > switching to photopolymer.
      >
      > Barbara
      >
      > --- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, "Gerald Lange" <Bieler@...>
      > wrote:
      >
      > > . . . I have not experienced a significant slow down, I have
      > sensed it
      > > everywhere, but things still seem viable in this sector. How are
      > other
      > > folks doing?
      > >
      > > Gerald
      > > http://BielerPress.blogspot.com
      > >
      >
      >
      >



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    • Blue Barnhouse
      For custom work we make it a strict policy to take half up front, the other half before delivery. Chasing down delinquent payments on one time or even two time
      Message 2 of 11 , Dec 2, 2008
        For custom work we make it a strict policy to take half up front, the
        other half before delivery. Chasing down delinquent payments on one
        time or even two time clients is one administrative duty I refuse to
        perform and its difficult to pay employees for work they've done
        without immediate payment for services rendered.

        With wholesale greetings its different, we can't avoid customers who
        are used to Net 30, some won't buy without that option, and if our
        sales reps vouch for their clients who want N30, we have no choice but
        to comply. To the defense of the N30, it is kind of nice to have a
        check fall out of the sky when you're not really thinking about it.

        We try and make our wholesale customers pay up front for their first
        order at least. But w/ Museums and chain stores you have to bend the
        rules. For the most part we haven't had any delinquents and a gentle
        nudge is all it takes for those who are late-- I have yet to have to
        fly out to a customer's shop and burn it down in retribution for
        failure to pay, but believe me if it gets to that point, I am willing.

        Brandon


        On Dec 2, 2008, at 3:15 PM, Lamsland wrote:

        > I wanna know when it was printers stopped taking a third up front, a
        > third on deliver and a third in 30 days and started trying to be
        > banks??



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      • Lamsland
        ... LOL, yeah go figure, one place I work is run by a bunch of italians, like their grandfather that started the place was right off the boat. I ve heard they
        Message 3 of 11 , Dec 2, 2008
          > I have yet to have to
          > fly out to a customer's shop and burn it down in retribution for
          > failure to pay, but believe me if it gets to that point, I am willing.
          >
          > Brandon
          >

          LOL, yeah go figure, one place I work is run by a bunch of italians,
          like their grandfather that started the place was right off the boat.
          I've heard they have "close family" in NYC. You'd think with guys
          like this running the joint there's never be an issue with getting paid.


          Matthew "LAMMY" Lamoureux
          Full Metal Press - Operis servo a specialis nundinae

          Where the press is free and every man able to read, all is safe.
          Thomas Jefferson
        • Gerald Lange
          Hi Barbara My take on it is that folks aren t switching to photopolymer, they are starting with photopolymer. Not exactly the best approach typographically, in
          Message 4 of 11 , Dec 3, 2008
            Hi Barbara

            My take on it is that folks aren't switching to photopolymer, they are
            starting with photopolymer. Not exactly the best approach
            typographically, in terms of something or other, whatever, doesn't
            really matter, that is just the way it is.

            Yeah, lots of stuff is available at pretty good prices now. Last
            couple of weeks I have been getting calls from suppliers offering up
            inventory at half price, their cost. This isn't normal but it is good
            tax planning. Write it off this year as the write off won't do you
            much good next year, especially if next year is as uncertain as it
            seems. So, naturally, I''m buying.

            Gerald



            -- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, "Barbara Hauser" <BarbHauser@...>
            wrote:
            >
            > Hi Gerald and all,
            >
            > I'm just a hobby printer so I don't have a business to report on.
            > However, I'm always in the market for type and other studio equipment,
            > and I'm getting the impression that prices are considerably lower than
            > they have been. I'm getting like-new fonts of ATF type for $30,
            > whereas they use to go for at least $50. But maybe everyone's
            > switching to photopolymer.
            >
            > Barbara
            >
            > --- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, "Gerald Lange" <Bieler@> wrote:
            >
            >
            > > . . . I have not experienced a significant slow down, I have sensed it
            > > everywhere, but things still seem viable in this sector. How are other
            > > folks doing?
            > >
            > > Gerald
            > > http://BielerPress.blogspot.com
            > >
            >
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