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  • Barbara Hauser
    Hi Gerald and all, I m just a hobby printer so I don t have a business to report on. However, I m always in the market for type and other studio equipment, and
    Message 1 of 11 , Dec 2, 2008
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      Hi Gerald and all,

      I'm just a hobby printer so I don't have a business to report on.
      However, I'm always in the market for type and other studio equipment,
      and I'm getting the impression that prices are considerably lower than
      they have been. I'm getting like-new fonts of ATF type for $30,
      whereas they use to go for at least $50. But maybe everyone's
      switching to photopolymer.

      Barbara

      --- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, "Gerald Lange" <Bieler@...> wrote:


      > . . . I have not experienced a significant slow down, I have sensed it
      > everywhere, but things still seem viable in this sector. How are other
      > folks doing?
      >
      > Gerald
      > http://BielerPress.blogspot.com
      >
    • Lamsland
      I don t do any business with regards to letterpress, I do however work for two commercial shops and can comment on the feeling in there at those. One is
      Message 2 of 11 , Dec 2, 2008
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        I don't do any business with regards to letterpress, I do however
        work for two commercial shops and can comment on the feeling in there
        at those. One is looking to be bought up, the other has laid off at
        least two people every couple of months since summer. It's not even
        half as busy at that shop as it was two years ago and no one, not
        even sales reps, have good things to say about the coming future.
        Clients like hospitals and other big corporations are cutting way
        back. Orders now are commonly in the hundreds to a thousand, but
        they're ordering more often. As always getting paid is the biggest
        crutch we face.

        I wanna know when it was printers stopped taking a third up front, a
        third on deliver and a third in 30 days and started trying to be banks??


        Matthew "LAMMY" Lamoureux
        Full Metal Press - Operis servo a specialis nundinae

        Where the press is free and every man able to read, all is safe.
        Thomas Jefferson

        On Dec 2, 2008, at 2:46 PM, Barbara Hauser wrote:

        > Hi Gerald and all,
        >
        > I'm just a hobby printer so I don't have a business to report on.
        > However, I'm always in the market for type and other studio equipment,
        > and I'm getting the impression that prices are considerably lower than
        > they have been. I'm getting like-new fonts of ATF type for $30,
        > whereas they use to go for at least $50. But maybe everyone's
        > switching to photopolymer.
        >
        > Barbara
        >
        > --- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, "Gerald Lange" <Bieler@...>
        > wrote:
        >
        > > . . . I have not experienced a significant slow down, I have
        > sensed it
        > > everywhere, but things still seem viable in this sector. How are
        > other
        > > folks doing?
        > >
        > > Gerald
        > > http://BielerPress.blogspot.com
        > >
        >
        >
        >



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      • Blue Barnhouse
        For custom work we make it a strict policy to take half up front, the other half before delivery. Chasing down delinquent payments on one time or even two time
        Message 3 of 11 , Dec 2, 2008
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          For custom work we make it a strict policy to take half up front, the
          other half before delivery. Chasing down delinquent payments on one
          time or even two time clients is one administrative duty I refuse to
          perform and its difficult to pay employees for work they've done
          without immediate payment for services rendered.

          With wholesale greetings its different, we can't avoid customers who
          are used to Net 30, some won't buy without that option, and if our
          sales reps vouch for their clients who want N30, we have no choice but
          to comply. To the defense of the N30, it is kind of nice to have a
          check fall out of the sky when you're not really thinking about it.

          We try and make our wholesale customers pay up front for their first
          order at least. But w/ Museums and chain stores you have to bend the
          rules. For the most part we haven't had any delinquents and a gentle
          nudge is all it takes for those who are late-- I have yet to have to
          fly out to a customer's shop and burn it down in retribution for
          failure to pay, but believe me if it gets to that point, I am willing.

          Brandon


          On Dec 2, 2008, at 3:15 PM, Lamsland wrote:

          > I wanna know when it was printers stopped taking a third up front, a
          > third on deliver and a third in 30 days and started trying to be
          > banks??



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        • Lamsland
          ... LOL, yeah go figure, one place I work is run by a bunch of italians, like their grandfather that started the place was right off the boat. I ve heard they
          Message 4 of 11 , Dec 2, 2008
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            > I have yet to have to
            > fly out to a customer's shop and burn it down in retribution for
            > failure to pay, but believe me if it gets to that point, I am willing.
            >
            > Brandon
            >

            LOL, yeah go figure, one place I work is run by a bunch of italians,
            like their grandfather that started the place was right off the boat.
            I've heard they have "close family" in NYC. You'd think with guys
            like this running the joint there's never be an issue with getting paid.


            Matthew "LAMMY" Lamoureux
            Full Metal Press - Operis servo a specialis nundinae

            Where the press is free and every man able to read, all is safe.
            Thomas Jefferson
          • Gerald Lange
            Hi Barbara My take on it is that folks aren t switching to photopolymer, they are starting with photopolymer. Not exactly the best approach typographically, in
            Message 5 of 11 , Dec 3, 2008
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              Hi Barbara

              My take on it is that folks aren't switching to photopolymer, they are
              starting with photopolymer. Not exactly the best approach
              typographically, in terms of something or other, whatever, doesn't
              really matter, that is just the way it is.

              Yeah, lots of stuff is available at pretty good prices now. Last
              couple of weeks I have been getting calls from suppliers offering up
              inventory at half price, their cost. This isn't normal but it is good
              tax planning. Write it off this year as the write off won't do you
              much good next year, especially if next year is as uncertain as it
              seems. So, naturally, I''m buying.

              Gerald



              -- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, "Barbara Hauser" <BarbHauser@...>
              wrote:
              >
              > Hi Gerald and all,
              >
              > I'm just a hobby printer so I don't have a business to report on.
              > However, I'm always in the market for type and other studio equipment,
              > and I'm getting the impression that prices are considerably lower than
              > they have been. I'm getting like-new fonts of ATF type for $30,
              > whereas they use to go for at least $50. But maybe everyone's
              > switching to photopolymer.
              >
              > Barbara
              >
              > --- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, "Gerald Lange" <Bieler@> wrote:
              >
              >
              > > . . . I have not experienced a significant slow down, I have sensed it
              > > everywhere, but things still seem viable in this sector. How are other
              > > folks doing?
              > >
              > > Gerald
              > > http://BielerPress.blogspot.com
              > >
              >
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