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  • parallel_imp
    I need to make some photopolymner plates for someone who did the design work on a PC using the TTF font Guardi, in Pagemaker. My service bureau intended to
    Message 1 of 12 , Sep 5, 2008
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      I need to make some photopolymner plates for someone who did the
      design work on a PC using the TTF font Guardi, in Pagemaker. My
      service bureau intended to convert the PC TTF font to a Mac version
      and open the document in Mac Pagemaker 6.5.
      As font files I was sent "GUI_____.TTF", "GUI_____.PFB" and
      "GUI_____.PFM". One would not open in Fontographer, one opened as
      Guardi italic and the other as Guardi 56 italic, no roman or boldface
      present. The service bureau had the same result.
      Any ideas what is happening here? Incomplete font or improper
      processing?
      thanks, Eric Holub, SF
    • Lamsland
      I think either they have an incomplete set or didn t fully provide all the files. http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/adobe/guardi/ Matthew LAMMY Lamoureux Full
      Message 2 of 12 , Sep 5, 2008
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        I think either they have an incomplete set or didn't fully provide
        all the files.

        http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/adobe/guardi/



        Matthew "LAMMY" Lamoureux
        Full Metal Press - Operis servo a specialis nundinae

        On Sep 5, 2008, at 1:30 PM, parallel_imp wrote:

        > I need to make some photopolymner plates for someone who did the
        > design work on a PC using the TTF font Guardi, in Pagemaker. My
        > service bureau intended to convert the PC TTF font to a Mac version
        > and open the document in Mac Pagemaker 6.5.
        > As font files I was sent "GUI_____.TTF", "GUI_____.PFB" and
        > "GUI_____.PFM". One would not open in Fontographer, one opened as
        > Guardi italic and the other as Guardi 56 italic, no roman or boldface
        > present. The service bureau had the same result.
        > Any ideas what is happening here? Incomplete font or improper
        > processing?
        > thanks, Eric Holub, SF
        >
        >



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      • mike day
        Eric, Interesting problem. In Identifont, the only manufacture that shows a resource other than Opentype is ITC. They have a Postscript. As you probably know,
        Message 3 of 12 , Sep 5, 2008
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          Eric,

          Interesting problem. In Identifont, the only manufacture that shows a
          resource other than Opentype is ITC. They have a Postscript. As you probably
          know, you have to have both the scrren font and printer font to have it
          print correctly. I would hazard that one of the resources is missing. Good
          luck on solving the problem.

          Mike Day


          --
          Mike Day
          Long Day Press
          Sunnyvale CA


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        • jason@greenboathouse.com
          Eric, Can you not simply convert the text to outlines in Pagemaker? Or, if not, can you open the file in InDesign, or copy/paste the content into an InDesign
          Message 4 of 12 , Sep 5, 2008
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            Eric,

            Can you not simply convert the text to outlines in Pagemaker?
            Or, if not, can you open the file in InDesign, or copy/paste the content into an InDesign file, and then convert the text to outlines to make a PDF with no font data?

            Jason

            _________________________________

            Jason Dewinetz
            Greenboathouse Press
            www.greenboathouse.com



            ----- Original Message -----
            From: mike day
            To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 10:43 AM
            Subject: Re: [PPLetterpress] font problem


            Eric,

            Interesting problem. In Identifont, the only manufacture that shows a
            resource other than Opentype is ITC. They have a Postscript. As you probably
            know, you have to have both the scrren font and printer font to have it
            print correctly. I would hazard that one of the resources is missing. Good
            luck on solving the problem.

            Mike Day

            --
            Mike Day
            Long Day Press
            Sunnyvale CA

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          • Carole Aldrich
            I believe that the .pfb and .pfm files are the PC equivalent of the postscript screen and printer font on a Mac. You were clearly not given all the truetype
            Message 5 of 12 , Sep 5, 2008
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              I believe that the .pfb and .pfm files are the PC equivalent of the
              postscript screen and printer font on a Mac. You were clearly not
              given all the truetype fonts you needed of Guardi. It is very
              difficult to ascertain font names on a PC because, as you can see,
              their names are pretty cryptic. The only way to actually see their
              real names is with a font management program such as Adobe Type
              Manager. I have Guardi in a postscript Mac font. I could send your
              service bureau the set if that is considered OK to do for you to
              output your job.

              On Sep 5, 2008, at 10:30 AM, parallel_imp wrote:

              > I need to make some photopolymner plates for someone who did the
              > design work on a PC using the TTF font Guardi, in Pagemaker. My
              > service bureau intended to convert the PC TTF font to a Mac version
              > and open the document in Mac Pagemaker 6.5.
              > As font files I was sent "GUI_____.TTF", "GUI_____.PFB" and
              > "GUI_____.PFM". One would not open in Fontographer, one opened as
              > Guardi italic and the other as Guardi 56 italic, no roman or boldface
              > present. The service bureau had the same result.
              > Any ideas what is happening here? Incomplete font or improper
              > processing?
              > thanks, Eric Holub, SF
              >
              >
              >



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            • Aaron
              Can the person that did the work make a pdf? If the person makes a high res pdf with the fonts embedded it will work. I deal with pdf files from customers from
              Message 6 of 12 , Sep 5, 2008
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                Can the person that did the work make a pdf? If the person makes a
                high res pdf with the fonts embedded it will work.
                I deal with pdf files from customers from all over the country. I am
                production manager of a weekly newspaper and that is how we get ads
                from outside designers.
                Aaron Poscovsky
                --- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, "parallel_imp" <Megalonyx@...>
                wrote:
                >
                > I need to make some photopolymner plates for someone who did the
                > design work on a PC using the TTF font Guardi, in Pagemaker. My
                > service bureau intended to convert the PC TTF font to a Mac version
                > and open the document in Mac Pagemaker 6.5.
                > As font files I was sent "GUI_____.TTF", "GUI_____.PFB" and
                > "GUI_____.PFM". One would not open in Fontographer, one opened as
                > Guardi italic and the other as Guardi 56 italic, no roman or
                boldface
                > present. The service bureau had the same result.
                > Any ideas what is happening here? Incomplete font or improper
                > processing?
                > thanks, Eric Holub, SF
                >
              • Peter Fraterdeus
                Incomplete font. The client should produce a PDF, any other method is fraught with hassles! Sending the font to the service bureau is not OK for commercially
                Message 7 of 12 , Sep 5, 2008
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                  Incomplete font. The client should produce a PDF, any other method is
                  fraught with hassles!

                  "Sending the font" to the service bureau is not OK for commercially
                  licensed fonts.

                  Cheers!

                  Peter
                  alphabets.com


                  On 5 Sep 2008, at 12:56 PM, Carole Aldrich wrote:

                  > I believe that the .pfb and .pfm files are the PC equivalent of the
                  > postscript screen and printer font on a Mac. You were clearly not
                  > given all the truetype fonts you needed of Guardi. It is very
                  > difficult to ascertain font names on a PC because, as you can see,
                  > their names are pretty cryptic. The only way to actually see their
                  > real names is with a font management program such as Adobe Type
                  > Manager. I have Guardi in a postscript Mac font. I could send your
                  > service bureau the set if that is considered OK to do for you to
                  > output your job.
                  >
                  > On Sep 5, 2008, at 10:30 AM, parallel_imp wrote:
                  >
                  >> I need to make some photopolymner plates for someone who did the
                  >> design work on a PC using the TTF font Guardi, in Pagemaker. My
                  >> service bureau intended to convert the PC TTF font to a Mac version
                  >> and open the document in Mac Pagemaker 6.5.
                  >> As font files I was sent "GUI_____.TTF", "GUI_____.PFB" and
                  >> "GUI_____.PFM". One would not open in Fontographer, one opened as
                  >> Guardi italic and the other as Guardi 56 italic, no roman or boldface
                  >> present. The service bureau had the same result.
                  >> Any ideas what is happening here? Incomplete font or improper
                  >> processing?
                  >> thanks, Eric Holub, SF
                  >>
                  >>
                  >>

                  Peter Fraterdeus
                  Exquisite Letterpress
                  http://slowprint.com

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                • Aaron
                  I miss the old days when I used a Linotype or hand set type. You didn t have font problem when you took a lead form or engraving to a printer to print for you.
                  Message 8 of 12 , Sep 5, 2008
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                    I miss the old days when I used a Linotype or hand set type.
                    You didn't have font problem when you took a lead form or engraving
                    to a printer to print for you.
                    Aaron
                    --- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, Lamsland <lamsland1@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > I think either they have an incomplete set or didn't fully provide
                    > all the files.
                    >
                    > http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/adobe/guardi/
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Matthew "LAMMY" Lamoureux
                    > Full Metal Press - Operis servo a specialis nundinae
                    >
                    > On Sep 5, 2008, at 1:30 PM, parallel_imp wrote:
                    >
                    > > I need to make some photopolymner plates for someone who did the
                    > > design work on a PC using the TTF font Guardi, in Pagemaker. My
                    > > service bureau intended to convert the PC TTF font to a Mac
                    version
                    > > and open the document in Mac Pagemaker 6.5.
                    > > As font files I was sent "GUI_____.TTF", "GUI_____.PFB" and
                    > > "GUI_____.PFM". One would not open in Fontographer, one opened as
                    > > Guardi italic and the other as Guardi 56 italic, no roman or
                    boldface
                    > > present. The service bureau had the same result.
                    > > Any ideas what is happening here? Incomplete font or improper
                    > > processing?
                    > > thanks, Eric Holub, SF
                    > >
                    > >
                    >
                    >
                    >
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                    >
                  • Scott Rubel
                    Ah, the old days, when the customer would say, That s nice, but can you just increase the font size a little bit? --Scott ... [Non-text portions of this
                    Message 9 of 12 , Sep 5, 2008
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                      Ah, the old days, when the customer would say, "That's nice, but can you
                      just increase the font size a little bit?" --Scott

                      Aaron wrote:
                      > I miss the old days when I used a Linotype or hand set type.
                      > You didn't have font problem when you took a lead form or engraving
                      > to a printer to print for you.
                      > Aaron
                      > --- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, Lamsland <lamsland1@...> wrote:
                      >
                      >> I think either they have an incomplete set or didn't fully provide
                      >> all the files.
                      >>
                      >> http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/adobe/guardi/
                      >>
                      >>
                      >>
                      >> Matthew "LAMMY" Lamoureux
                      >> Full Metal Press - Operis servo a specialis nundinae
                      >>
                      >> On Sep 5, 2008, at 1:30 PM, parallel_imp wrote:
                      >>
                      >>
                      >>> I need to make some photopolymner plates for someone who did the
                      >>> design work on a PC using the TTF font Guardi, in Pagemaker. My
                      >>> service bureau intended to convert the PC TTF font to a Mac
                      >>>
                      > version
                      >
                      >>> and open the document in Mac Pagemaker 6.5.
                      >>> As font files I was sent "GUI_____.TTF", "GUI_____.PFB" and
                      >>> "GUI_____.PFM". One would not open in Fontographer, one opened as
                      >>> Guardi italic and the other as Guardi 56 italic, no roman or
                      >>>
                      > boldface
                      >
                      >>> present. The service bureau had the same result.
                      >>> Any ideas what is happening here? Incomplete font or improper
                      >>> processing?
                      >>> thanks, Eric Holub, SF
                      >>>
                      >>>
                      >>>
                      >>
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                      >>
                      >>
                      >
                      >
                      >
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                    • Gerald Lange
                      Eric If you still need the info I have conversion sequences for TT to PS1 and PC to Mac, using Fontographer. These are from the old Altsys underground
                      Message 10 of 12 , Sep 5, 2008
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                        Eric

                        If you still need the info I have conversion sequences for TT to PS1 and
                        PC to Mac, using Fontographer. These are from the old Altsys
                        "underground manual." I use them all the time.

                        Gerald

                        parallel_imp wrote:
                        > I need to make some photopolymner plates for someone who did the
                        > design work on a PC using the TTF font Guardi, in Pagemaker. My
                        > service bureau intended to convert the PC TTF font to a Mac version
                        > and open the document in Mac Pagemaker 6.5.
                        > As font files I was sent "GUI_____.TTF", "GUI_____.PFB" and
                        > "GUI_____.PFM". One would not open in Fontographer, one opened as
                        > Guardi italic and the other as Guardi 56 italic, no roman or boldface
                        > present. The service bureau had the same result.
                        > Any ideas what is happening here? Incomplete font or improper
                        > processing?
                        > thanks, Eric Holub, SF
                        >
                        >
                        >
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                        >
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                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                      • Iohannes Daubmannus
                        GUI_____.PFM and GUI_____.PFB are the files of pc type-1 font italic typeface, i guess (GUardy Italic) GUI_____.TTF is the file of (the same, I guess)
                        Message 11 of 12 , Sep 5, 2008
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                          GUI_____.PFM and GUI_____.PFB are the files of pc type-1 font italic
                          typeface, i guess (GUardy Italic)
                          GUI_____.TTF is the file of (the same, I guess) true-type font italic typeface.

                          Is roman or bold typeface really used in the work?

                          I think it's better to send a PDF with all fonts embeded.
                        • Iohannes Daubmannus
                          .pfb is pc type1 outline file .pfm is pc type1 metrics file that s enough for pc type1 fontface. .ttf file is the only file needed as pc true-type fontface.
                          Message 12 of 12 , Sep 5, 2008
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                            .pfb is pc type1 outline file
                            .pfm is pc type1 metrics file
                            that's enough for pc type1 fontface.

                            .ttf file is the only file needed as pc true-type fontface.

                            fontfaces are grouped as fontfamily in menu by data recorded in file
                            info (inside file), but lonely typeface will still work.

                            guess, you have lonely typeface, italic, in true-type and type1 variants.
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