8444Re: [PPLetterpress] buying old type
- Oct 1, 2007Steve Robison skribis:
>Actually ATF did not adopt numbers for typefaces
> 4) While you've got it under a magnifying glass,
> check to see if it might be ATF type (American
> Type Founders type). If it is, it will have the ATF
> type face number imprinted on the capital 'H'
> and/or the lowercase 'm'. This was done on sizes
> large enough where it could be cast on the face,
> and in years when ATF was consolidating all of
> the 26 companies that it bought and merged with ...
> (Can anyone jump in with specifics on when and
> on what sizes of type the numbers are cast into
> the 'H' & 'm'??? I used to know, but for some
> reason can't recall at the moment).
until about 1930 long after the initial consolidation
in 1892. The matrices for the vast majority of type-
faces inherited from the consolidating foundries were
destroyed by 1920 as the faces were too old-
fashioned. Seperate blocks of numbers were assigned
to faces from Keystone, BB&S, and Inland, as those
foundries were acquired between 1910 and 1920.
I believe all sizes, no matter how small, had the
numbers cast onto the shoulder of H and m, even
though you may need a magnifying glass to read
them. (ATF once cast the Lord's prayer onto the
face of a six-point by six-point piece of type.)
> . . . There are, however, still a couple of sourcesAs far as I know, the Dale Guild is the only source
> of newly cast ATF faces. They are being cast
> from salvaged matrices from when the ATF
> company went under. (Dale Guild foundry comes
> to mind.)
for newly cast ATF type. They alone have some of
the Barth casters that were exclusively used by ATF.
A number of hobby printers purchased some of
ATF's matrices at the auction of that firm, but there
has been only limited attempts to cast them on
Monotype casters (which involves customizing
molds and matrix holders), and none of that type
has been offered for sale.
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