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8041Re: [PPLetterpress] Re: Soy update

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  • heidrun mumper-drumm
    Jul 9, 2007
      I would agree with you. Making sure that I, and any letterpress or offset printer I use, uses the ink [oil or rubber base] efficiently [minimize waste] and thoroughly [use up the can] is more important than just some soy content.

      Heidrun

      -----Original Message-----
      >From: Gerald Lange <Bieler@...>
      >Sent: Jul 9, 2007 10:32 AM
      >To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
      >Subject: [PPLetterpress] Re: Soy update
      >
      >Heidrun
      >
      >In reading through that list from the search I'd recommend downloading
      >the PDF "Biochemicals for the Printing Industry." This has percentages
      >listed.
      >
      >My limited experience with soy inks has not been all that
      >satisfactory. I can't get the quality of presswork that I've
      >experienced with other inks—I suspect that this has something to do
      >with the carrier to pigment ratio in the blacks. Nor does soy ink seem
      >to respond well with traditional additives, such as magnesium
      >carbonate. Also, since it is considered more biodegradable than
      >traditional inks I wonder about its longevity. Plus, it's a bit
      >unnerving that the stuff can be washed off your hands with plain soap
      >and water!!!
      >
      >Gerald
      >
      >--- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, "Gerald Lange" <Bieler@...> wrote:
      >>
      >> Heidrun
      >>
      >> This was at the top of the list when I Googled soybean ink percentage:
      >>
      >>
      >http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3065/is_n10-11_v21/ai_13633194/pg_2
      >>
      >> Gerald
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, heidrun mumper-drumm <drummbeat@>
      >> wrote:
      >> >
      >> > If you do find out the percentage, please let me know. I do know
      >> that having as little as 10% soy allows the industry to state
      >> 'soy-based inks,' which then qualifies as 'green washing' to my mind.
      >> >
      >> > Heidrun
      >> >
      >> > -----Original Message-----
      >> > >From: amy borezo <aborezo@>
      >> > >Sent: Jul 8, 2007 7:58 AM
      >> > >To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
      >> > >Subject: [PPLetterpress] Re: Soy update
      >> > >
      >> > >Heidrun,
      >> > >
      >> > >I do not know the percentage of soy oil in the ink. It does appear
      >> to be a
      >> > >blend. The people at Gans are extremely helpful if you want to give
      >> them a
      >> > >call.
      >> > >
      >> > >There is definitely more research to be done. I'm finding out
      >> little bits at
      >> > >a time and would like to continue to do so. It would certainly be
      >> > >interesting to examine the "hidden costs", if there indeed are any,
      >> of using
      >> > >soy inks. I suppose no one can assume anything until the research
      >> has been
      >> > >done.
      >> > >
      >> > >It is a fact that soy inks contain less VOCs, 1-3%. This is not
      >> only a labor
      >> > >issue, but an environmental issue, when you consider that the
      >printing
      >> > >industry uses 2 billion pounds of ink per year. (source
      >> > >http://www.flintgrp.com/InkBackgrounder.pdf). Is that fact balanced
      >> out by
      >> > >some other detrimental effect to people and the environment? I
      >> don't know
      >> > >yet, but I will be doing more research.
      >> > >
      >> > >amy borezo
      >> > >shelter/Books
      >> > >www.shelterbooks.com
      >> > >
      >> > >
      >> > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      >> > >
      >> > >
      >> > >
      >> > >
      >> > >Yahoo! Groups Links
      >> > >
      >> > >
      >> > >
      >> >
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