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  • Fritz Klinke
    Dec 18, 2003
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      To add to Elias' comments a bit--I worked in a San Francisco plant where the
      large Miehle flat beds and newer Heidelberg cylinders worked 2 shifts a day, 5
      and 6 days a week. We ran as many as 72,000 copies of Safeway News (employee
      magazine) on the Miehles and they were 90% halftones. There was no anguish or
      mashing of teeth. Everyone knew their job, from the Linotype operators,
      composing room, and pressmen. Everything worked. When the presses needed new
      bearings, they were replaced on the 3rd shift. New bed bearings went in the
      Miehles every year or so. Things were taken care of and we had mechanics who had
      parts and things were kept in tip top shape. Rollers were recovered on a
      scheduled basis, not when they would bounce off the floor. We could have a
      photoengraving made in under 2 hours. M&H was one block away for Monotype or
      handset type. Proof presses were used for proofing--they would laugh at what is
      going on today, it's like playing with Tonka Toys instead of real machines. But,
      we work with what's left today--most of the really good equipment went overseas
      or was scrapped. Just keep things in perspective.

      Fritz

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "E Roustom" <ERoustom@...>
      To: <PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:48 AM
      Subject: Re: [PPLetterpress] Re: New Times for Letterpress


      Hi Gerald,

      > Though today it is more for affect than technical necessity.
      I do in part agree. The jobs I like doing best are where the impression
      seems necessary, and natural to both the paper and the purpose of the job.
      I've had several clients look for the impression on *both* sides of the
      sheet - drives me nuts, but at least I know how to achieve that, and thank
      goodness for photopolymer.

      Two questions (two topics):
      In what sense are you using "Affect"?
      Could we substitute "Affect" with "Effect"?

      >Sometimes, when you look through the older stuff, you almost wish you
      >had a time machine to take you back.
      Fritz Klinke and I had discussed this once, and his opinion is that the work
      being done then was with new equipment (then), large flat bed cylinders, an
      industry with full support (proper inks, rollers, plate makeready systems,
      well trained professionals). We exist now with the leftovers, in some cases
      the presses that would have been scrapped (should have been scrapped?), and
      training in art, not trade schools. We are the bands of die hard insurgents
      in a war that was clearly lost. However collectively we produce beautiful
      vital work, whether or not we are compelled by tradition.
      I'm not sure I'd want to go back in time except to look and learn.
      Nobody's going to make me wear a vest and tie at work on the floor of a
      printing house! But yes, what a pleasure it would be to see the early
      cylinders at work.

      Elias


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