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  • carey johnson
    Jul 17 4:09 PM
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      Thanks for the tip. We'll see what their budget is and whether we in
      fact will have any say in how it's printed. I appreciate your help.

      --- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, Michael T Metz <mtmetz@s...>
      wrote:
      > The printing can still be done letterpress without printing
      > the full run with the wood type. Plates can be made from
      > letterpress proofs much easier than what you will have to do
      > to get a photograph to reproduce the effect. The end product
      > can then be printed from the new plates.
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: carey johnson [mailto:careysuejohnson@y...]
      > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:30 AM
      > To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: [PPLetterpress] Re: offset printing a letterpress design
      >
      >
      > because i don't have control over that part of the process. i'm
      hired
      > by a music manager/producer who's shopping a recording to a label.
      > and the label, i believe, is going to make that decision. i was
      asked
      > to provide film. but they want letterpress art. if it were up to me,
      > sure, i'd rather see it done letterpress. still, i think the point
      > about doing a run of a thousand or more with wood type not being
      such
      > a great idea is well taken anyhow...
      >
      >
      > --- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, Michael T Metz <mtmetz@s...>
      > wrote:
      > > Did you say why you didn't want to print it letterpress?
      > >
      > > -----Original Message-----
      > > From: carey johnson [mailto:careysuejohnson@y...]
      > > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:04 AM
      > > To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
      > > Subject: [PPLetterpress] Re: offset printing a letterpress design
      > >
      > >
      > > I don't think it really needs to be done all that cheaply. But
      > > frankly, I don't know the budget. It won't be large, mind you, but
      > it
      > > probably won't be nothing either. The thing is, the run will be
      > > larger than can be happily produced on a Vandercook. And your
      point
      > > about a run that big & chancing the type is well taken. I still
      > don't
      > > know the numbers of the run, either. At least a thousand. Likely
      > more.
      > >
      > > But are you suggesting that I print (proof) (on the vandercook)
      and
      > > scan each color separately instead of going cmyk? (i.e. Go with
      > > pantone spot color for all of it?) I was wondering if that might
      be
      > a
      > > way to go.... Sort of try to reproduce a spot color print on an
      > > offset press... and scan each color with a slightly different line
      > > screen? I think that seems like a cool idea.
      > >
      > >
      > > --- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, "eroustom" <ERoustom@w...>
      > > wrote:
      > > > I'm curiouse if this had to be done on the cheap, with a
      straight
      > > desktop scan... I've got some art school printmaking ideas (as in
      no
      > > > budget whatsoever) to lend on this question:
      > > > My first suggestion would be to avoid the dot. Don't produce
      a
      > > half tone, but after you edit your (high res. grayscale) scan,
      > > > produce line art (bitmap) - if you get it right, the only thing
      > > missing will be the impression. Second consider overprinting
      > > different
      > > > proofs (with different densities of coverage) thereby producing
      a
      > > duotone, and adding some depth and complexity to the
      > > > ink/color that is often missing from offset.
      > > >
      > > > Or find someone with a cylinder press to run the job for real
      (if
      > I
      > > were to do it, I'd make a plate from a scan anyway - I wouldn't
      > > > want to take a chance with clunky old wood type surviving 1000
      > > impressions without the lock-up exploding).
      > > >
      > > > Good luck.
      > > >
      > > > Elias Roustom
      > > >
      > > > --- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, "Mats Broberg"
      > > <mats.broberg@a...> wrote:
      > > > > > I have plans to offset print a letterpress design done with
      > > wood
      > > > > > type. We'll print it it on a vandercook, then scan the art
      to
      > > create
      > > > > > films. Does anyone have any cautionary advice for the
      process?
      > > Just
      > > > > > wondering...
      > > > > >
      > > > > > All comments welcome.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Thanks!
      > > > > > Carey Johnson
      > > > >
      > > > > Carey,
      > > > >
      > > > > Jim makes good points about the problem involved in
      reproducing
      > a
      > > > > letterpress printed item in offset.
      > > > >
      > > > > If you aim for expressing some of the tactile quality of the
      > > item, the
      > > > > way to go is probably to work with a professional photographer
      > > and spend
      > > > > a few hours in tweaking studio lighting. I recall a project a
      > few
      > > years
      > > > > ago when I worked with a photographer to get a good image of a
      > > piece of
      > > > > watercolor artwork. At first we tried a traditional
      reprographic
      > > setup
      > > > > of the lights, merely to get a starting point, and the result
      > was
      > > not
      > > > > impressive. We had to spend alot of time working with
      different
      > > angles
      > > > > and different types of lightsources to capture some of the
      > > > > three-dimensional qualities of the watercolor. If the goal is
      a
      > > mere
      > > > > facsimile, then it's another matter and a traditional
      > > reprographic setup
      > > > > of lighting may work.
      > > > >
      > > > > Your budget may or may not make it possible to work with a
      > > photographer,
      > > > > and if it doesn't, you can scan the item on a scanner.
      However,
      > > to get
      > > > > as good a result as possible you may prefer to have it scanned
      > on
      > > a drum
      > > > > scanner at a commercial process engraving / prepress company.
      In
      > > the
      > > > > specs, many consumer-grade and semi-professional scanners
      > compare
      > > well
      > > > > with high-end equipment, but there are more to it than color
      > > depth and
      > > > > resolution. Many times a skilled operator and an old Crosfield
      > > Magnascan
      > > > > (which took up half a room) creates results that, still, can
      be
      > > > > absolutely outstanding.
      > > > >
      > > > > When the time comes to the offset printing of the scan, you
      may
      > > want to
      > > > > contact a printing office who works with waterless offset, or
      FM
      > > screens
      > > > > / hybrid screens. Waterless offset makes it possible to
      > reproduce
      > > your
      > > > > image using a finer screen, and FM screens (frequency
      modulated)
      > > and
      > > > > hybrid screens are methods to screen your image that have some
      > > > > advantages over traditional AM screens (amplitude modulated).
      > > > >
      > > > > Good luck and don't hesitate to drop me a line if you have
      more
      > > > > questions.
      > > > >
      > > > > Best regards,
      > > > > Mats Broberg
      > > > >
      > > > > Stockholm - S
      > >
      > >
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