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  • Fritz Klinke
    Dec 12, 2008
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      We have sold both Dale Guild type and from existing stocks of new ATF type to book binders, but I agree that it is an undeveloped type sales area. The hard metal formula of ATF type does well in many book operations. And many binders now use mag plates, even for single volumes, and pass the cost along to the client.

      For an interesting prcing schedule for monotype/Thompson cast type being sold to hot foil stamping people, take a look at the Howard Imprinting site. Some of these folks with Howard came from Kingsley and they aggressively market their machines, but steer clear of printers.


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: aborezo
      To: PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:00 PM
      Subject: [PPLetterpress] Re:Hot metal type

      I think that bookbinders should be another market for foundry type. It
      seems to me that letterpress alone cannot sustain the production of
      the Dale Guild Foundry type. If Dale Guild ceases production, foundry
      type in the U.S. will certainly be too precious to use! :) In other
      words, if we don't use it then it will no longer be made. I fully
      recognize that bookbinders and letterpress printers together may not
      be enough to sustain production, but I don't think it is being
      marketed to bookbinders at this time, and perhaps it should be. Heck,
      maybe Talas should carry it!

      To purchase multiple fonts and sizes of brass type would be
      outrageously expensive, yet that variety is what one needs in a
      bindery. Foundry type offers the ability to get that variety
      affordably. In addition, it's not always preferable to make metal
      plates for projects. For example, I have about 70 labels I need to
      stamp and each one is different. It's so much easier to set type for
      this purpose. A ludlow would also be great, but I don't want to deal
      with a pot of molten lead in my studio. ;)

      I agree that some bookcloth will be too hard on foundry type. It would
      be best to use on paper and leather at moderate heat, I would think.
      Another drawback for using foundry type for hot foil is that it is
      usually not cut as deeply as brass type and, I think, service type.
      Another plus for foundry is the amount of letters you get in a
      set--much more than with brass or service.


      --- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, Graham and Kathy
      <kwhalen.incline@...> wrote:
      > The Mazak type that I have was made by Stephenson Blake of
      Sheffield, last
      > of the old type foundries, who closed down I guess about four years ago
      > (time flies - it could be longer, but they were still casting to
      order in
      > 1999).
      > One of the ways they stayed afloat for so long was by supplying type
      for the
      > hot foilers. I don't know what faces they supplied, and only have a
      fount of
      > 24pt Modern No. 20, and that came to me by accident. I keep it in a case
      > mixed with some of their regular foundry type. It was Howard Bratter who
      > pointed out to me what it was, me not realizing, and told me that
      there was
      > differential shrinkage on cooling between Mazak and regular foundry
      > but it must be so minute as not to show in practical printing use,
      and I've
      > not noticed low letters when printing or letters loose in the
      lock-up when
      > lifting the chase. The only way I can tell the two castings apart
      is by the
      > weight of the letters, the Mazak being noticeably lighter.
      > I have done a bit of foiling for book titles, and personally I reckon
      > foundry type is too precious to use that way, as eventually the
      weave of the
      > cloth appeared in the face of the letters - instead I use 16g zinc
      > made from a typeset original print.
      > Graham Moss
      > Incline Press
      > 36 Bow Street
      > Oldham OL1 1SJ England
      > http://www.inclinepress.com

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