10326Re: [PPLetterpress] Re:Hot metal type
- Dec 12, 2008We have sold both Dale Guild type and from existing stocks of new ATF type to book binders, but I agree that it is an undeveloped type sales area. The hard metal formula of ATF type does well in many book operations. And many binders now use mag plates, even for single volumes, and pass the cost along to the client.
For an interesting prcing schedule for monotype/Thompson cast type being sold to hot foil stamping people, take a look at the Howard Imprinting site. Some of these folks with Howard came from Kingsley and they aggressively market their machines, but steer clear of printers.
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Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:00 PM
Subject: [PPLetterpress] Re:Hot metal type
I think that bookbinders should be another market for foundry type. It
seems to me that letterpress alone cannot sustain the production of
the Dale Guild Foundry type. If Dale Guild ceases production, foundry
type in the U.S. will certainly be too precious to use! :) In other
words, if we don't use it then it will no longer be made. I fully
recognize that bookbinders and letterpress printers together may not
be enough to sustain production, but I don't think it is being
marketed to bookbinders at this time, and perhaps it should be. Heck,
maybe Talas should carry it!
To purchase multiple fonts and sizes of brass type would be
outrageously expensive, yet that variety is what one needs in a
bindery. Foundry type offers the ability to get that variety
affordably. In addition, it's not always preferable to make metal
plates for projects. For example, I have about 70 labels I need to
stamp and each one is different. It's so much easier to set type for
this purpose. A ludlow would also be great, but I don't want to deal
with a pot of molten lead in my studio. ;)
I agree that some bookcloth will be too hard on foundry type. It would
be best to use on paper and leather at moderate heat, I would think.
Another drawback for using foundry type for hot foil is that it is
usually not cut as deeply as brass type and, I think, service type.
Another plus for foundry is the amount of letters you get in a
set--much more than with brass or service.
--- In PPLetterpress@yahoogroups.com, Graham and Kathy
> The Mazak type that I have was made by Stephenson Blake of
> of the old type foundries, who closed down I guess about four years ago
> (time flies - it could be longer, but they were still casting to
> One of the ways they stayed afloat for so long was by supplying type
> hot foilers. I don't know what faces they supplied, and only have a
> 24pt Modern No. 20, and that came to me by accident. I keep it in a case
> mixed with some of their regular foundry type. It was Howard Bratter who
> pointed out to me what it was, me not realizing, and told me that
> differential shrinkage on cooling between Mazak and regular foundry
> but it must be so minute as not to show in practical printing use,
> not noticed low letters when printing or letters loose in the
> lifting the chase. The only way I can tell the two castings apart
is by the
> weight of the letters, the Mazak being noticeably lighter.
> I have done a bit of foiling for book titles, and personally I reckon
> foundry type is too precious to use that way, as eventually the
weave of the
> cloth appeared in the face of the letters - instead I use 16g zinc
> made from a typeset original print.
> Graham Moss
> Incline Press
> 36 Bow Street
> Oldham OL1 1SJ England
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