Re: [PIEreligion] Re: Questions about "Thunder God"
- on 3/29/05 5:55 PM, CeiSerith@... wrote:
>>Mary is also extremely popular and there are lots of statues of her. But
> Hercules was an extremely popular deity in Rome; many statues of him have
> been found.
> Ceisiwr Serith
she's not a Goddess.
Hercules was initiated into the Eleusinian Mysteries. By his example (as a
foreigner initiated), Romans are allowed. Some of his most interesting
figures are in his role as initiate.
- In a message dated 4/4/2005 5:29:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> I dont understand why sea-snail means octopus though? Mollusca is aBeats the heck out of me. Remember, though, that there are different
> scientific cassification, so why would a snail become confused with
> an octopus or cuttlefish?
reasons for classifications, so maybe the ancient Irish saw a similarity between
snails and octopuses that eludes us. There might also be the possibility that
Gwynn was wrong, and that the similarity is between a snail/slug, and a
serpent, which makes more sense to me.
> Within a nest of heads onInteresting. I'm not sure we have to go in the direction of squids,
> slender necks, the beast grasps the tethered head of Sky-Bellower. An
> isolation of the Jormungander element (Fig. 2) gives us an idea of
> the thing's general planform.
> Large teuthids like Architeuthis dux are no strangers to the cold
> waters of Scandinavia, and the Altuna image suggests that they were
> not unknown to the artisans who carved the stone. It is not difficult
> to see in the Altuna figure the outlines of the manus, feeding
> tentacle and arm corona of a squid. The individual heads with which
> Jormungander grasps the head of Sky-Bellower might derive from the
> appearance of the suckers on the tentacular club of Architeuthis.
> Arrayed on short stalks, these suckers could easily have been
> mistaken for small, mobile mouths, ringed with chitinous teeth.
though. The idea of a multi-headed monster is pretty wide-spread; as far as the
Serpent is concerned, there is the Hydra. It makes sense; a multi-headed monster
is particularly monstrous, in the sense that it breaks the rules of one head
per beast, and particularly dangerous, what with all those mouths and teeth.
Could there have been a squid contibution to the arttistic motifs in the
imagery? Maybe. But I don't think it's necessary respecting the ideology behind
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