RE: [PCGenListFileHelp] Re: Dragon Magic
> From: notyetmousse24@... [mailto:notyetmousse24@...]Well Knowledge skills, spellcraft, maybe a few diplomacy ranks. And it
> paul.grosse sez...
> 'Actually it's fairly well balanced.'
> Sorry I just don't buy it. I'll give it a read sometime to
> satisfy curiosity.
> 'High Draconic is a cross class skill for ALL classes, so no
> high ranks. And the basic formula is DC=15+(Spell
> level)+(level it would be if metamagic'd) and if you don't
> have the metamagic feat you are applying you add another 5 to it.'
> Not bad, but assuming a wizard you've got plenty of skill
> points to toss around (what do they use 'em for aside from
> Concentrate anyway?), and already know a few metamagics
> (maximize, all the component bypasses) out of professionalism.
is a cross class so you can never get more ranks than (TL+3)\2
> 'So a maximized Fireball would be a maximum of 26 if youWell duh, any 20th level spell caster should be extremely nasty, and of
> didn't have the Maximize spell feat. And there aren't any
> synergy bonuses that add to the Speak High Draconic.'
> But could be as low as 21, and you could apply the skill
> focus feat to the skill (and depending on how you game those
> extra skill focus feat clones) on top of their skill (and
> possibly attribute modifier). With just a maxed out skill
> (20th level) and skill focus you've got a 14, leaving you to
> roll a 7, which is pretty easy.
course the party should have been up against true dragons using this
against them a couple of levels ago :)
>But at 20'th level 25 points is nothing especially since you should be
> 'And some of the consequences are particularly bad, like I
> think if you roll a 5 ALL your spells are gone for the day.'
> Just going to assume that rolling a 5 is pretty bad (since
> high equals good), which would be ok if the power wasn't so
> potentially severe. Just for example if you were to toss out
> a maximized magic missile instead of fireball the DC would be
> (if feat were known) 17, a roll of 3. This is quite a power
> boost for a spell, going from an average of 17 to 25. And
> you can toss out the extra
> 8 points of damage several times. With low level spells
> you're talking about free add ons with pretty much no cost.
fighting stuff that has a pretty hefty SR
>It also says that they have to be a native speaker of Draconic. But
> 'No you have to be a TRUE dragon, specifically in the rules
> :) so no skirting around the rules there.'
> If you finish the dragon disciple PrC you become a half
> dragon, dragon typed, for all intents and purposes a dragon.
> The funny thing is that under the rules you could
> (theoretically) be a Dragon and two kinds of Elemental at the
> same time. Possibly Psuedonatural as well, but who really
> wants to be a tentacle monster anyway?
> Please note that was a rhetorical question. If you do indeed
> know someone who wants to play the Overfiend please do not tell me
still it's True dragons IMC, although there is a "Dragon Master" PrC in
the book that at 10th level gets all their spell slots back, but still
have to raise their skill
> TM Tamarin, QA Lemur