RE: [PCGenListFileHelp] Re: WIELD
> > The wierd thing about the Bastard sword is that it's a one handedThis particular subject was bandied about on the DnD list a while back, and
> > weapon. If you try to use it one handed without the Exotic Weapon
> > prof, you incure a -4 non-proficiency penalty.
> Not entirely correct: it is a two handed MARTIAL weapon. One handed it
> is Exotic. The Dwarven Waraxe is the same way - twohanded Martial,
> onehanded Exotic (except for Dwarves in 35e). I think it should be
> WIELD:TwoHanded as that is how it is normally used by anyone
> without EWP.
personally, I feel that the following statement allows one to think about
the *concept* of the weapon most clearly.
"The Bastard Sword is an Exotic Weapon, requiring the Exotic Weapon
proficiency. Some characters, by virtue of their class or size, can use the
weapon as a Martial Weapon using two hands."
Note this view expresses the Martial Weapon aspect as the exception, and
that this view is borne out by the tables in both the 3.0 and 3.5 PHP, where
it appears *only* in the Exotic Weapons lists.
I'm not saying this in order to "correct" anyone's impression or to impose a
view. I'm just trying to present a different perspective that may help to
solve the problems behind getting it to work correctly. Nobody seems to be
treating the two-handed Martial use as the exception, and since the rules
suggext that's what it *is*, it might help to think of it that way.
- --- In PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com, "Brass Tilde" <brasstilde@i.
> > > The wierd thing about the Bastard sword is that it's a onehanded
> > > weapon. If you try to use it one handed without the ExoticWeapon
> > > prof, you incure a -4 non-proficiency penalty.handed it
> > Not entirely correct: it is a two handed MARTIAL weapon. One
> > is Exotic. The Dwarven Waraxe is the same way - twohanded Martial,As Brass Tilde pointed out, the Bastard Sword (and the Dwarven Waraxe)
> > onehanded Exotic (except for Dwarves in 35e). I think it should be
> > WIELD:TwoHanded as that is how it is normally used by anyone
> > without EWP.
are One Handed weapons -- thus are listed under the One-Handed Exotic
weapons chart in the RSRD. If you do not have special training (Exotic
Weapon prof) you get a -4 non-proficiency penalty while wielding them
Even stranger is if you are a Wizard and don't have the Martial or
Exotic weapon feats, you can wield a Bastard Sword one handed and
still only take a -4 non-proficiency penalty.