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Re: [PCGenListFileHelp] Re: Help with Size Differences

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  • Andrew
    Hi, It s typically done at the RC cycle of the release cycle. You may disable the deprecation messages in the Preferences. ... [Non-text portions of this
    Message 1 of 7 , Dec 12, 2011
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      Hi,

      It's typically done at the 'RC' cycle of the release cycle. You may disable the deprecation messages
      in the Preferences.

      On 12/12/2011 7:20 PM, George wrote:
      > That seems to have done the trick. It looks like it is a 5.16.4 bug. Thanks for the help.
      >
      > Now I just have to resolve all of my new-found load errors. Is there an ETA for when the delivered datasets will be updated?
      >
      > Cheers,
      >
      > Sir George Anonymous
      >
      > --- In PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com, "George" <lpacdavis@...> wrote:
      >> ok, I hav d/l'd the most recent version. I'll give it a try.
      >>
      >> --- In PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com, Andrew <drew0500@> wrote:
      >>> Hi George,
      >>>
      >>> Movie quotes, gotta love them.
      >>>
      >>> I'm using the 5.17.9 version of pcgen. If there is indeed a bug, it would be in the 5.16 line.
      >>> Default should be no penalty. Try grabbing 5.17.9 - other than an encumbrance bug [Barbarian issue]
      >>> (Which is fixed for 5.17.10) it should be as stable if not more stable than 5.16.4 is currently.
      >>> (Plus lots of new sources ;) )
      >>>
      >>> And as to your question - "What happens if you comment out the line" - I get to equip a Large
      >>> Longsword Two Handed without the -2 penalty.
      >>>
      >>> Cheers,
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>> On 12/11/2011 5:07 AM, George wrote:
      >>>> "I know what you would say, and it would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart." Frodo Baggins
      >>>>
      >>>> Roughly translated, I can change other things in the miscinfo.lst file (example the weapon non-proficiency penalty), and those changes work fine. For some reason, this doesn't.
      >>>>
      >>>> I am using 5.16.4. I'll go back and check my spelling, but I don't think that's the problem (though I really hope it is).
      >>>>
      >>>> What happens if you comment the line out in your miscinfo.lst file? Does PCGen default to -2/diff level?
      >>>>
      >>>> Cheers,
      >>>>
      >>>> Sir George Anonymous
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>> --- In PCGenListFileHelp@yahoogroups.com, Andrew <drew0500@> wrote:
      >>>>> Okay, so I tested the -10 dealio, and it came out correctly for me.
      >>>>>
      >>>>> EQSIZEPENALTY:35 Size Penalty
      >>>>>
      >>>>> BONUS:WEAPON|TOHIT|(PC.SIZE.INT-EQUIP.SIZE.INT)*-10|PREVARGT:PC.SIZE.INT,EQUIP.SIZE.INT|!PRETYPE:2,Melee,Natural|TYPE=DifferentEQSizePenalty
      >>>>>
      >>>>>
      >>>>> BONUS:WEAPON|TOHIT|(EQUIP.SIZE.INT-PC.SIZE.INT)*-10|PREVARGT:EQUIP.SIZE.INT,PC.SIZE.INT|!PRETYPE:2,Melee,Natural|TYPE=DifferentEQSizePenalty
      >>>>>
      >>>>> That is my custom gamemode. That tells me it's working fine, and that the file you're editing is NOT
      >>>>> the one being used. Verify that the file you edited is the one being used in PCGen.
      >>>>>
      >>>>> Cheers,
      >>>>>
      >>>>>
      >>>>> On 12/8/2011 6:05 PM, George wrote:
      >>>>>> So I have my own game mode with the following tags in miscinfo.lst:
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>> EQSIZEPENALTY:35 Size Penalty<tab>
      >>>>>> BONUS:WEAPON|TOHIT|-2*max(EQUIP.SIZE.INT-PC.SIZE.INT,0)<tab>
      >>>>>> BONUS:WEAPON|TOHIT|-2*max(PC.SIZE.INT-EQUIP.SIZE.INT,0)
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>> and
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>> WCSTEPSFORMULA:EQUIP.SIZE.INT-PC.SIZE.INT
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>> I also have this in my rules.lst file:
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>> NAME:WeaponSizePenalty<tab>
      >>>>>> VAR:SYS_35WP<tab>
      >>>>>> DEFAULT:Yes<tab>
      >>>>>> DESC:Apply 3.5 Size Category Penalty to Attacks
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>> and
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>> NAME:WeaponSizebyCategory<tab>
      >>>>>> PARM:SIZECAT<tab>
      >>>>>> DEFAULT:Yes<tab>
      >>>>>> EXCLUDE:SIZEOBJ<tab>
      >>>>>> DESC:Use 3.5 Weapon Categories
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>> and I have made sure that both of these options are active in my House Rules preferences.
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>> The problem is that the calculation of -2*levels of difference in miscinfo.lst doesn't seem to be used. PCGen is using -2*levels of difference, but when I tried to change the formula a bit in my miscinfo.lst file (e.g. -10*levels of difference), nothing changed -- PCGen continues to use -2*levels of difference. In fact, I commented out those two lines my miscinfo.lst, and PCGen still used -2*levels of difference.
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>> So, where is PCGen pulling this value from, and how can I change it?
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>> Cheers,
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>> Sir George Anonymous
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>>
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      >>>>>> --
      >>>>>> Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
      >>>>>> Admin Silverback - PCGen Board of Directors
      >>>>>> Data 2nd, Docs Tamarin, OS Lemur
      >>>>>> Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
      >>>>>> Unique Title "The Torturer of PCGen"
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      >>>> --
      >>>> Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
      >>>> Admin Silverback - PCGen Board of Directors
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      >>>> Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
      >>>> Unique Title "The Torturer of PCGen"
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      > --
      > Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
      > Admin Silverback - PCGen Board of Directors
      > Data 2nd, Docs Tamarin, OS Lemur
      > Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
      > Unique Title "The Torturer of PCGen"


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