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  • John Richard
    Hello all, To the best of my knowledge, and remembering past conversations when the QANTAS Cat was on its way here with all the usual problems, the Foundation
    Message 1 of 17 , Aug 1, 2013
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      Hello all,
      To the best of my knowledge, and remembering past conversations when the QANTAS Cat was on its way here with all the usual problems, the Foundation is completely independent of QANTAS, (the airline),
      and is independently funded, with some support from QANTAS. (Don't claim to know the 'in depth' of how that works,but that's it. Something like the situation we at Rathmines are now finding out, plenty
      of 'hot air' promises, but when called on, evaporated into the stratosphere.))
      VH-EAX, after struggling from Spain finally succumbed to engine and other mechanical problems around Indonesia. Not the best country in the world for support of mechanical failures, particularly with 70+ year old
      aircraft. After searching world wide for help and support, finally was offered LOAN engines and parts to complete journey to Longreach. (Members overseas - not just a hop step and a jump from Australian main population. I have driven thru outback NSW & Queensland for 4+ days to reach Longreach.)
      Short story long, these loan engines and parts had to be returned, and this aircraft will eventually be restored to 1943 QANTAS wartime colours to honour the flights of the double sunrise.
      Here endeth the lesson - from a not qualified historian.  :)

      John Richard
      Rathmines Park Trustee


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      On 01/08/2013, at 1:48 AM, "Larry N Goodman" <lngoodman@...> wrote:

       

      Lets all contribute some money and buy the PBY shown here. Apparently nobody wants it setting there like that. Somebody take hold of this and do something, It tares my heart to see a plane disrespected like that by "Operator error". What a shame.
       
      Larry
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:26 AM
      Subject: [PBY] Longreach Catalina





      Begin forwarded message:

      From: John Richard <johnrichard6344@...>
      Subject: IMG_0002
      Date: 31 July 2013 10:21:03 PM AEST
      To: David Legg <pby5@...>


      Hi David, and others,
      Just as an update, travelled through Longreach, Western Queensland this week, and called in to check on PBY VH-EAX, photo attached.
      Engines and other equipment removed for return to source of loan to complete its journey here, and has been stagnant since. Still in same position and tied down as I saw it
      over 12 mtgs ago. 
      Was advised that no one has been back to commence work on it since the engines were removed, 'some time ago'.

      regards,

      John Richard
      Rathmines Park Trust


      <IMG_0002_2.jpeg>

      IMG_0002

       




    • John Richard
      Hello all, To the best of my knowledge, and remembering past conversations when the QANTAS Cat was on its way here with all the usual problems, the Foundation
      Message 2 of 17 , Aug 1, 2013
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        Hello all,
        To the best of my knowledge, and remembering past conversations when the QANTAS Cat was on its way here with all the usual problems, the Foundation is completely independent of QANTAS, (the airline),
        and is independently funded, with some support from QANTAS. (Don't claim to know the 'in depth' of how that works,but that's it. Something like the situation we at Rathmines are now finding out, plenty
        of 'hot air' promises, but when called on, evaporated into the stratosphere.))
        VH-EAX, after struggling from Spain finally succumbed to engine and other mechanical problems around Indonesia. Not the best country in the world for support of mechanical failures, particularly with 70+ year old
        aircraft. After searching world wide for help and support, finally was offered LOAN engines and parts to complete journey to Longreach. (Members overseas - not just a hop step and a jump from Australian main population. I have driven thru outback NSW & Queensland for 4+ days to reach Longreach.)
        Short story long, these loan engines and parts had to be returned, and this aircraft will eventually be restored to 1943 QANTAS wartime colours to honour the flights of the double sunrise.
        Here endeth the lesson - from a not qualified historian.  :)

        John Richard
        Rathmines Park Trustee


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        On 01/08/2013, at 1:48 AM, "Larry N Goodman" <lngoodman@...> wrote:

         

        Lets all contribute some money and buy the PBY shown here. Apparently nobody wants it setting there like that. Somebody take hold of this and do something, It tares my heart to see a plane disrespected like that by "Operator error". What a shame.
         
        Larry
        ----- Original Message -----
        Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:26 AM
        Subject: [PBY] Longreach Catalina





        Begin forwarded message:

        From: John Richard <johnrichard6344@...>
        Subject: IMG_0002
        Date: 31 July 2013 10:21:03 PM AEST
        To: David Legg <pby5@...>


        Hi David, and others,
        Just as an update, travelled through Longreach, Western Queensland this week, and called in to check on PBY VH-EAX, photo attached.
        Engines and other equipment removed for return to source of loan to complete its journey here, and has been stagnant since. Still in same position and tied down as I saw it
        over 12 mtgs ago. 
        Was advised that no one has been back to commence work on it since the engines were removed, 'some time ago'.

        regards,

        John Richard
        Rathmines Park Trust


        <IMG_0002_2.jpeg>

        IMG_0002

         




      • David Legg
        John - no surprise to hear about the Qantas relationship with there museum. The great thing about your country is that there seems to be a huge amount of
        Message 3 of 17 , Aug 1, 2013
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          John - no surprise to hear about the Qantas relationship with there museum.  The great thing about your country is that there seems to be a huge amount of interest in Catalinas there and you are well endowed with restored and restorable examples.  Sometimes, enthusiasm is more important than money.  Good luck to them and to all the Catalina projects down-under.
           
          David Legg
          Editor: The Catalina News, The Catalina Society



          On 1 Aug 2013, at 11:35, John Richard <hutcheson253@...> wrote:

           

          Hello all,

          To the best of my knowledge, and remembering past conversations when the QANTAS Cat was on its way here with all the usual problems, the Foundation is completely independent of QANTAS, (the airline),
          and is independently funded, with some support from QANTAS. (Don't claim to know the 'in depth' of how that works,but that's it. Something like the situation we at Rathmines are now finding out, plenty
          of 'hot air' promises, but when called on, evaporated into the stratosphere.))
          VH-EAX, after struggling from Spain finally succumbed to engine and other mechanical problems around Indonesia. Not the best country in the world for support of mechanical failures, particularly with 70+ year old
          aircraft. After searching world wide for help and support, finally was offered LOAN engines and parts to complete journey to Longreach. (Members overseas - not just a hop step and a jump from Australian main population. I have driven thru o utback NSW & Queensland for 4+ days to reach Longreach.)
          Short story long, these loan engines and parts had to be returned, and this aircraft will eventually be restored to 1943 QANTAS wartime colours to honour the flights of the double sunrise.
          Here endeth the lesson - from a not qualified historian.  :)

          John Richard
          Rathmines Park Trustee


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          On 01/08/2013, at 1:48 AM, "Larry N Goodman" <lngoodman@...> wrote:

           

          Lets all contribute some money and buy the PBY shown here. Apparently nobody wants it setting there like that. Somebody take hold of this and do something, It tares my heart to see a plane disrespected like that by "Operator error". What a shame.
           
          Larry
          ----- Original Message -----
          Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:26 AM
          Subject: [PBY] Longreach Catalina





          Begin forwarded message:

          From: John Richard <johnrichard6344@...>
          Subject: IMG_0002
          Date: 31 July 2013 10:21:03 PM AEST
          To: David Legg <pby5@...>


          Hi David, and others,
          Just as an update, travelled through Longreach, Western Queensland this week, and called in to check on PBY VH-EAX, photo attached.
          Engines and other equipment removed for return to source of loan to complete its journey here, and has been stagnant since. Still in same position and tied down as I saw it
          over 12 mtgs ago. 
          Was advised that no one has been back to commence work on it since the engines were removed, 'some time ago'.

          regards,

          John Richard
          Rathmines Park Trust


          <IMG_0002_2.jpeg>

          IMG_0002

           






        • j-chris.polet
          Nice picture here :
          Message 4 of 17 , Aug 1, 2013
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            Nice picture here :

            http://www.google.fr/imgres?um=1&sa=N&hl=fr&tbm=isch&tbnid=-rZGOO9-GzdJxM:&imgrefurl=http://www.samheathfield.com/blog/2013/03/03/longreach-march-2013/&docid=o7uJOBb_rb6QwM&imgurl=http://www.samheathfield.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/IMG_0940.jpg&w=8272&h=2440&ei=VqH6UdziFIqY0QWpt4CYCw&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=461&page=1&tbnh=88&tbnw=270&start=0&ndsp=19&ved=1t:429,r:6,s:0,i:100&tx=5 7&ty=51&biw=1366&bih=634

             
            Jean-Christophe Polet


            De : James <dfboy@...>
            À : PBY@yahoogroups.com
            Envoyé le : Jeudi 1 août 2013 1h22
            Objet : [PBY] Re: Longreach Catalina

             
            I wouldn't worry too much about the Catalina sitting out in the open at Qantas Founders Museum in Longreach.

            Longreach, in western Queensland is pretty much "drier than a dead dingo's d****r" as the saying goes.

            Maybe not as dry as the aircraft graveyards in the Mojave Desert, New Mexico, but as far as rainfall goes she will get wetter every time they clean her down to remove the dust.

            Besides, she's in good company out there with a Boeing 747 Jumbo and a Boeing 707 by her side.

            James

          • Jim Stephens
            I think this is the airport where the PBY is located, someone can correct me if not. The area from the imagery on Google seems to match the dry southwest US
            Message 5 of 17 , Aug 1, 2013
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              I think this is the airport where the PBY is located, someone can correct me if not.  The area from the imagery on Google seems to match the dry southwest US conditions.

              I wonder if anyone knows if the 747 was flown in there.  It must have been, and would have been a run arrival, as the runway doesn't look that long.

              here is the airport if it is the correct one:

              http://goo.gl/maps/lxsDc

              There seems to be a DC3 in front of the hanger, and the 747 is visible in both the overhead and streetview from Landsborough Highway, A2.

              I didn't google to see if there is a website with more info, just what I have read in this thread.
              Jim

              On 8/1/2013 3:42 AM, John Richard wrote:
              Hello all,
              To the best of my knowledge, and remembering past conversations when the QANTAS Cat was on its way here with all the usual problems, the Foundation is completely independent of QANTAS, (the airline),
              and is independently funded, with some support from QANTAS. (Don't claim to know the 'in depth' of how that works,but that's it. Something like the situation we at Rathmines are now finding out, plenty
              of 'hot air' promises, but when called on, evaporated into the stratosphere.))
              VH-EAX, after struggling from Spain finally succumbed to engine and other mechanical problems around Indonesia. Not the best country in the world for support of mechanical failures, particularly with 70+ year old
              aircraft. After searching world wide for help and support, finally was offered LOAN engines and parts to complete journey to Longreach. (Members overseas - not just a hop step and a jump from Australian main population. I have driven thru outback NSW & Queensland for 4+ days to reach Longreach.)
              Short story long, these loan engines and parts had to be returned, and this aircraft will eventually be restored to 1943 QANTAS wartime colours to honour the flights of the double sunrise.
              Here endeth the lesson - from a not qualified historian.  :)

              John Richard
              Rathmines Park Trustee


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              On 01/08/2013, at 1:48 AM, "Larry N Goodman" <lngoodman@...> wrote:

               

              Lets all contribute some money and buy the PBY shown here. Apparently nobody wants it setting there like that. Somebody take hold of this and do something, It tares my heart to see a plane disrespected like that by "Operator error". What a shame.
               
              Larry
              ----- Original Message -----
              Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:26 AM
              Subject: [PBY] Longreach Catalina





              Begin forwarded message:

              From: John Richard <johnrichard6344@...>
              Subject: IMG_0002
              Date: 31 July 2013 10:21:03 PM AEST
              To: David Legg <pby5@...>


              Hi David, and others,
              Just as an update, travelled through Longreach, Western Queensland this week, and called in to check on PBY VH-EAX, photo attached.
              Engines and other equipment removed for return to source of loan to complete its journey here, and has been stagnant since. Still in same position and tied down as I saw it
              over 12 mtgs ago. 
              Was advised that no one has been back to commence work on it since the engines were removed, 'some time ago'.

              regards,

              John Richard
              Rathmines Park Trust


              <IMG_0002_2.jpeg>

              IMG_0002

               







            • Jim Stephens
              ... Here is a video of the 747 arrival in 2009. One way trip. http://youtu.be/tDJOtwGUAcI Tour of the museum (no PBY in video, but other nice stuff)
              Message 6 of 17 , Aug 1, 2013
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                On 8/1/2013 12:30 PM, Jim Stephens wrote:


                I think this is the airport where the PBY is located, someone can correct me if not.  The area from the imagery on Google seems to match the dry southwest US conditions.

                I wonder if anyone knows if the 747 was flown in there.  It must have been, and would have been a run arrival, as the runway doesn't look that long.

                here is the airport if it is the correct one:

                http://goo.gl/maps/lxsDc

                There seems to be a DC3 in front of the hanger, and the 747 is visible in both the overhead and streetview from Landsborough Highway, A2.

                I didn't google to see if there is a website with more info, just what I have read in this thread.
                Jim
                Here is a video of the 747 arrival in 2009.  One way trip.

                http://youtu.be/tDJOtwGUAcI

                Tour of the museum (no PBY in video, but other nice stuff)

                http://youtu.be/tDJOtwGUAcI

                Jim
              • John Richard
                Hi Jim, Yes, they have a 707 and 747 with the Cat in between. Regular tours through both the 707 & 747, with wing walks on the 747. Over near the museum
                Message 7 of 17 , Aug 1, 2013
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                  Hi Jim,
                  Yes, they have a 707 and 747 with the Cat in between. Regular tours through both the 707 & 747, with wing walks on the 747.
                  Over near the museum itself, is an old DC3 depicting their first 'modern' air service.
                  In an original hangar from the 20's is their first passenger aircraft, complete with comfortable canvas seating, AND an onboard toilet! (So modern!) I think passenger capacity was nine?
                  With regards to the 747, you are right, it was an engineers nightmare, calculating just enough fuel to get to Longreach ONLY from Brisbane, (I think, or possibly Sydney), stripped of all non essentials,
                  so as weight was kept to bare minimum, approach low and slow, and just pulled up right on end of strip. (Couple of cup fuels of fuel left ;) ) It was a no return trip! 
                  They did do a few practice runs & approaches prior to the final trip.
                  Their web site does have the details and history of all the aircraft, I have not been on it for a while, but assumed it was still up? 
                  Longreach is an operating airfield with regular passenger service, (Dash8's and similar small prop-jet), as well as private aircraft.
                  regards,

                  John Richard

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                  On 02/08/2013, at 5:30 AM, Jim Stephens <jws@...> wrote:

                   

                  I think this is the airport where the PBY is located, someone can correct me if not.  The area from the imagery on Google seems to match the dry southwest US conditions.

                  I wonder if anyone knows if the 747 was flown in there.  It must have been, and would have been a run arrival, as the runway doesn't look that long.

                  here is the airport if it is the correct one:

                  http://goo.gl/maps/lxsDc

                  There seems to be a DC3 in front of the hanger, and the 747 is visible in both the overhead and streetview from Landsborough Highway, A2.

                  I didn't google to see if there is a website with more info, just what I have read in this thread.
                  Jim

                  On 8/1/2013 3:42 AM, John Richard wrote:
                  Hello all,
                  To the best of my knowledge, and remembering past conversations when the QANTAS Cat was on its way here with all the usual problems, the Foundation is completely independent of QANTAS, (the airline),
                  and is independently funded, with some support from QANTAS. (Don't claim to know the 'in depth' of how that works,but that's it. Something like the situation we at Rathmines are now finding out, plenty
                  of 'hot air' promises, but when called on, evaporated into the stratosphere.))
                  VH-EAX, after struggling from Spain finally succumbed to engine and other mechanical problems around Indonesia. Not the best country in the world for support of mechanical failures, particularly with 70+ year old
                  aircraft. After searching world wide for help and support, finally was offered LOAN engines and parts to complete journey to Longreach. (Members overseas - not just a hop step and a jump from Australian main population. I have driven thru outback NSW & Queensland for 4+ days to reach Longreach.)
                  Short story long, these loan engines and parts had to be returned, and this aircraft will eventually be restored to 1943 QANTAS wartime colours to honour the flights of the double sunrise.
                  Here endeth the lesson - from a not qualified historian.  :)

                  John Richard
                  Rathmines Park Trustee


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                  On 01/08/2013, at 1:48 AM, "Larry N Goodman" <lngoodman@...> wrote:

                   

                  Lets all contribute some money and buy the PBY shown here. Apparently nobody wants it setting there like that. Somebody take hold of this and do something, It tares my heart to see a plane disrespected like that by "Operator error". What a shame.
                   
                  Larry
                  ----- Original Message -----
                  Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:26 AM
                  Subject: [PBY] Longreach Catalina





                  Begin forwarded message:

                  From: John Richard <johnrichard6344@...>
                  Subject: IMG_0002
                  Date: 31 July 2013 10:21:03 PM AEST
                  To: David Legg <pby5@...>


                  Hi David, and others,
                  Just as an update, travelled through Longreach, Western Queensland this week, and called in to check on PBY VH-EAX, photo attached.
                  Engines and other equipment removed for return to source of loan to complete its journey here, and has been stagnant since. Still in same position and tied down as I saw it
                  over 12 mtgs ago. 
                  Was advised that no one has been back to commence work on it since the engines were removed, 'some time ago'.

                  regards,

                  John Richard
                  Rathmines Park Trust


                  <IMG_0002_2.jpeg>

                  IMG_0002

                   









                • John Richard
                  Quick update, in case you have not seen. QANTAS Catalina at Longreach nearing completion. Due to high temperatures over past weeks, (40deg C+ nearly every
                  Message 8 of 17 , Nov 24, 2014
                  Quick update, in case you have not seen.

                  QANTAS Catalina at Longreach nearing completion. Due to high temperatures over past weeks, (40deg C+  nearly every day), have been starting
                  3-4am in mornings to beat the heat of the day.
                  I drove through there 2 weeks ago, just as they were finishing final rub down, and pleased I was not there working during the day.

                  Best wishes to all,



                  Sunrise at Longreach, Western Queensland.



                  Nearly there.





                  John Richard
                  Vice President
                  Rathmines Memorial Park Trustee
                  fb: https://www.facebook.com/RathminesMemorialPark




                • Robert Bergstrom
                  NICE, love it! From: mailto:PBY@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:21 PM To: PBY@yahoogroups.com Cc: David Legg Subject: [PBY] Longreach
                  Message 9 of 17 , Nov 24, 2014
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                    NICE, love it!
                     
                    Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:21 PM
                    Subject: [PBY] Longreach Catalina [3 Attachments]
                     
                     

                    Quick update, in case you have not seen.

                     
                    QANTAS Catalina at Longreach nearing completion. Due to high temperatures over past weeks, (40deg C+  nearly every day), have been starting
                    3-4am in mornings to beat the heat of the day.
                    I drove through there 2 weeks ago, just as they were finishing final rub down, and pleased I was not there working during the day.
                     
                    Best wishes to all,
                     
                     
                     
                    Sunrise at Longreach, Western Queensland.
                     
                     
                     
                    Nearly there.
                     
                     



                    John Richard
                    Vice President
                    Rathmines Memorial Park Trustee
                    fb: https://www.facebook.com/RathminesMemorialPark
                     


                     
                  • David Legg
                    Hi John - apologies for the slow reply but many thanks for those photos and the update. Much appreciated! Harsh conditions! It will be interesting to see the
                    Message 10 of 17 , Nov 28, 2014
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                      Hi John - apologies for the slow reply but many thanks for those photos and the update.  Much appreciated!  Harsh conditions!

                      It will be interesting to see the final scheme.

                      Kind regards.

                      David Legg
                      Editor
                      The Catalina News, The Catalina Society




                      On 25 Nov 2014, at 00:21, John Richard hutcheson253@... [PBY] <PBY@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

                       

                      Quick update, in case you have not seen.


                      QANTAS Catalina at Longreach nearing completion. Due to high temperatures over past weeks, (40deg C+  nearly every day), have been starting
                      3-4am in mornings to beat the heat of the day.
                      I drove through there 2 weeks ago, just as they were finishing final rub down, and pleased I was not there working during the day.

                      Best wishes to all,


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                      Sunrise at Longreach, Western Queensland.


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                      Nearly there.


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                      John Richard
                      Vice President
                      Rathmines Memorial Park Trustee
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