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    I wish to add a few thoughts to Dr. Heckscher s discussion of the toll-houses. Oh, dear! First of all, I remember that certain persons were fanning the flames
    Message 1 of 1 , Feb 2, 2004
      I wish to add a few thoughts to Dr. Heckscher's discussion of the

      Oh, dear! First of all, I remember that certain persons were fanning
      the flames surrounding this doctrine back in the early '80's when we
      were part of ROCOR. I have a sense of deja vu. But I read both sides
      of the issue then, and I'm speaking thoughtfully, albeit ex tempore.

      1)First of all, we need to bear in mind the teaching of St. Vincent of
      Lerins: "Now in the Catholic--i.e. Orthodox--Church itself we take the
      AND BY ALL."

      Hence, the mere antiquity of a belief is no guarantee of its
      Orthodoxy. Arianism, Nestorianism, Monophysitism, Monothelitism, and
      Iconoclasm, as well as Gnosticism and Manicheanism, are all ancient
      beliefs, and the Roman Catholics have believed in Purgatory lo, these
      many years.

      We also need to consider St. Vincent's criteria of universality and
      consent. Has a belief in the toll-houses been held by all Orthodox
      Christians everywhere? It would seem not. As far as I know, the
      Greek Churches, and no doubt others, do not subscribe to this
      teaching. However, the doctrine in question seems to have been
      endorsec by many in the Russian Orthodox Church. (And I don't mean to
      bash Russians. All the local Churches have their own bees in their
      bonnets.) Furthermore, we might inquire if all Orthodox Christians
      consent to this belief. Well, obviously not!

      2) In order to articulate an Orthodox consesus on this issue, we need
      to consider its theological implications. True, some of these
      narratives might be edifying because they inspire us to "walk
      circumspectly" and curb our wicked actions. However, our faith
      teaches that the unspiritual person heeds the law of God because he's
      afraid to "go to hell." And let's face it--this is the reason most of
      us behave ourselves, if we do. However, Orthodoxy teaches that the
      truly spiritual person, despite his human weakness, practices the
      virtues and avoids sinful conduct out of love for God.

      Furthermore, we need to ask ourselves what these stories say about
      God. If we have died "in sin" and he turns us over to the demons to
      be tormented, then he is granting these wicked beings power over His
      creation. Well then, perhaps He's not all-powerful in the first
      place. Nor is He all-merciful; where is the God who "desires not the
      death of a sinner?" And what of the Good Thief and all those martyrs
      who underwent the "baptism of blood"? Dear me, if they forgot to
      confess some sin in the midst of their podvigs, are they to be handed
      over to torment? I think we can say that such a doctrine of God is a
      foul mishmash of semi-Manichean, semi-Nestorian(perhaps) 100% blasphemy!

      Certainly such doctines also nullify the power of the Resurrection, as
      the Orthodox believe in it.

      So dear brothers and sisters, please forgive me if I've offended you.
      I've just attemped to offer some constructive thoughts on this issue.

      In Christ,

      Margaret Jerinic
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