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Creation without Time

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  • VictorM
    Changing Earth Creation is just a name to distinguish us from Young and Old Earthers. The basis of Changing Earth is hermeneutics. We try to understand
    Message 1 of 1 , Jul 25 12:23 AM
      Changing Earth Creation is just a name to distinguish us from Young and
      Old Earthers. The basis of Changing Earth is hermeneutics. We try to
      understand creation and earth history, not with western linguistics or
      science, but with the grammar of the biblical author.

      Genesis begins with: first Elohim created (completed action verb) the
      heavens and earth. The next verse starts with the Hebrew waw, as do
      most sentences in Genesis One. (This serves as a conjunction, a
      particle like an "and" or "then" connecting to what
      happens next). And the earth she-was (completed verb) formless and
      empty. How did the formless Earth receive form? Elohim's wind
      dithered in unbroken continuity above the dark, primordial surface as
      He continued to command light to continue to be. Indeed, light never
      stops dithering around within matter, giving it extension and other
      properties. To this day, the Earth continues to spread out along a
      global expansion seam that runs through every ocean.

      The account of the next six days has 85% continuing-action verbs
      (imperfect, participles and infinitives). These show that He continued
      to change what He created first. Even on day seven, the verbs for
      finishing the heavens and the earth are imperfect showing that the
      intensity of creation was complete, yet the finishing continues. This
      makes no sense to westerners who reference actions to "time."
      It is not a contradiction in tenseless biblical Hebrew.

      There is no mention of time in Genesis One, only evenings, mornings and
      days. In a language that uses verb tenses, one categorizes events in
      time: past, present and future time. In ancient Hebrew, events were
      referenced to other events or to the season of something, but not to
      time, which had no actual existence in their world view. Evenings,
      mornings and days are not subjective like assumptions about undetectable

      Perhaps the reason the ancients had no present tense is that they did
      not hurry through life, controlled by clocks. Job explains what it was
      like living in the dinosaur age, when men lived for few days. Then he
      describes the geological phenomena: the sea (west) dried, water wears
      away rocks and carries away the dust of the earth that passed during
      those few days. Indeed, the Mediterranean dried repeatedly and the Nile
      was once a narrow gorge, deeper than the Grand Canyon, incised in
      granite. Today it is silted up with an enormous delta. Job 14 ends with
      the claim that their faces changed (doubled) before they died. The
      bones of the skull are the only part of our skeleton that keeps growing
      as we age. If we observed geological phenomena (such as a drying ocean)
      in one lifetime, we would grow Neanderthal brows from vast age. Our
      grandchildren would not have the extended faces, as the fossils show.
      Job does not mention time, only eon-events in his shortness-of-life
      poem. He does mention a statutory limit to death and that he is
      enlisted for change in the resurrection. If you wonder how could days
      and years continue to accelerate, with respect to former days and years
      - not time, consider gravity aberration.

      The days of Genesis One are sequential evenings and mornings. Some
      imagine the beginning of time in Genesis 1:1 and others debate whether
      a creation day involves 24-hour time or vast eons of time. Conjecturing
      about creation with western time ideas is unsupported by the Hebrew
      grammar. The creation events occurred in a specific sequence of
      evenings and mornings, yet geological events occurred during those
      evenings and mornings. A spreading atmosphere separated water above the
      atmosphere (that evidently formed into ice Proverbs 8:28
      <http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=pro8:28&version=NASB> ) on
      day two Perhaps this was similar to the surface jets forming an ice
      ring around the moon Enceladus. Then surface waters seeped into
      subterranean seas so that the dry land appeared. Then vegetation grew
      into trees that reproduced during the latter part of the third evening
      and morning. These geological events are followed by astronomical
      phenomena, beginning on the fourth evening and morning. Elohim
      continues to form the Sun, Moon and stars and continues to place them
      in the spreading place (raqiya). In unbroken continuity, He calls the
      stars to come out, yet none go missing (Isaiah 40:26
      <http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=isa40:26&version=NASB> ).

      The universe may contain more than a trillion galaxies in all directions
      and many ranges. The most powerful evidence for a literal creation is
      visible cosmic history. We observe the stars continuing to form and
      spread out from unformed matter at the core of countless galaxies at
      many ranges. What we observe only fits the literal creation text.
      Indeed, the one place the Bible says knowledge is available to all is
      in the plural heavens, the spreading place (raqiya).

      <http://www.godsriddle.info/2013/07/creation-without-time.html> The left
      image (from the Atacama Large Millimeter / submillimeter Array - ALMA)
      shows pulsed, jets emerging from the active core (red dot surrounded by
      two pink lobes) of the Sculptor galaxy. The right image is a
      combination of X-ray images (red) from NASA's NuSTAR and visible
      light from the ESO telescope in Chile of the Sculptor (NGC 253) .
      Image credit: NASA / JPL-Caltech / JHU.

      Astronomers often imagine that invisible black holes are at the core of
      galaxies. Observations with NuSTAR and Chandra in 2012 showed that
      matter is not accreting into a black hole in the core of the Sculptor.
      Instead they found evidence for matter emerging from the galactic core.
      How can matter keep on emerging from a formless place unless the
      properties of matter are emergent? Innumerable stars form and spread
      out into huge, local, dusty, growth spirals as the stars in billions of
      galaxies intrinsically form as the properties of matter continue to
      change relationally. Relational change is when the properties of matter
      all change together, in parallel.

      If you can believe the visible history of the universe, you may not be
      far from becoming a Changing Earth Creationist.

      Victor, Changing Earth Creationist

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