- Here's a link to an essay that touches on some of the misconceptions of ID that keep cropping up here (such as the notion that one must have knowledge of the designer before a design inference can be made).
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Subject: [OriginsTalk] Re: where is the evidence? (earth, wind and fire)
> David Williams: This letter says nothing about creationists having better scientific evidence than evolutionary biologists because they don't. This letter may fool scientific simpletons but not me.
> LA> Your comment shows only that your belief in evolutionism is more like a religion with you rather than a science. The following by a noted evolutionist seems to sum up your position;
> "It is as a religion of science that Darwinism chiefly
> held, and holds men's minds. . . The modified but still
> characteristically Darwinian theory has itself become an
> orthodoxy, preached by its adherents with religious fervor,
> and doubted, they feel, only by a few muddlers imperfect in
> scientific truth."'
> (Marjorie Grene, ENCOUNTER, November 1959, p.49)
> "Finally, the evolutionary vision is enabling us to discern, however
> incompletely, the lineaments of the new religion that we can be sure
> will arise to serve the needs of the coming era." (Sir Julian Huxley 1959)
David Williams: This is a red herring. You have no real scientific evidence for creationism, so you keep repeating the same old stale quotes and red herrings.
LA> Your continuing belief in evolutionism seems to be based on what seems to be more like a religious faith than science! What scientific evidence convinced you so positively that "people came from monkeys"? Did you know that Sir Fred Hoyle and his co-author of several books both renounced their atheism and concluded that there "must be a God".? i.e.;
"Once we see, however, that the probability of life
originating at random is so utterly minuscule as to make
the random concept absurd, it becomes sensible to think
that the favourable properties of physics on which life
depends are in every respect deliberate.". . . .
"It is therefore almost inevitable that our own
measure of intelligence must reflect in a valid way the
higher intelligence to our left, even to the extreme
idealized limit of God."
(Sir Fred Hoyle (English astronomer, Professor of Astronomy at
Cambridge University) and Chandra Wickramasinghe (Professor of
Astronomy and Applied Mathematics at University College,
Cardiff), "Convergence to God", in Evolution from Space,
J.M.Dent & Sons Ltd, London, 1981, pp.141 and 144.)
"We used to have an open mind, now we [with Hoyle] realise that the only logical answer to life is creation -- not accidental random shuffling." (Chandra Wickramasinghe, ex-atheist Buddhist, 1981)
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