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  • Charles Palm
    Stewart: 1 – HOW DOES SOMETHING THAT HAS NO BRAIN THINK? Tell me how anything can be conscious or make decisions or feel or recognise or be mindful of any
    Message 1 of 38 , Nov 1, 2012
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      Stewart: 1 � HOW DOES SOMETHING THAT HAS NO BRAIN THINK? Tell me how
      anything can be conscious or make decisions or feel or recognise or be
      mindful of any other thing in existence � without the appropriate sensory
      means? It is for you to determine the method of testing this (your latest)
      theory both empirically and certifiably.

      Charles P: Thank you, Stewart, for these questions. No one has an
      empirical and verifiable answer to how something WITH a brain can think,
      much less how something WITHOUT a brain can think. Maybe you misunderstood
      what James A Shapiro wrote.

      James A Shapiro:
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/29246 Living
      cells and organisms are cognitive (sentient) entities that act
      and interact purposefully to ensure survival, growth, and proliferation.
      They possess corresponding sensory, communication, information-processing,
      and decision-making capabilities.

      Charles P: Here are some examples or living things that are aware of their
      environment and they act and interact purposefully to ensure their
      survival, growth, and proliferation. They possess corresponding sensory,
      communication, information-processing, and decision-making capabilities.

      1
      http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/blog/36345/can+you+spot+the+cleverly+camouflaged+critters/
      Can
      you see the very leafy caterpillar, or the well-disguised gliding lizard,
      or the tiny Chiffchaff bird, or the inconspicuous grasshopper hiding out,
      or The Emperor Dragonfly, or The Jaguar that is South America's biggest
      feline, or camouflaged crabs, or the spider, or the tiny frog?

      2 http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Camoflage Camoflage is an example of
      design.

      Charles P: There are two possibilities for living things: (1) design or (2)
      no design. No design = random. Design = not random.

      Stewart: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/29903 I have no
      reason to argue with this because it is correct.

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      Stewart: 2 - This is question number 2, II (Two) Scientists don't object to
      design creationism because they might have to identify the designer. They
      object to it because there is no evidence to support it. Therefore it can
      hardly be accepted as axiomatic, can it?

      Charles P: Anyone can accept something as axiomatic if they wish. By
      doing so, they have a chance at learning something new. By refusing to
      accept something as axiomatic, they loose an opportunity to learn something
      new.

      1 http://www.thefreedictionary.com/axiom A self-evident or universally
      recognized truth.

      2 Design is self evident.

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      Stewart: These are questions 3, III (Three) and 3a (Three � A) 3- And why
      would any reasonable person do such a foolish thing? 3a - Do you understand
      what axiomatic means Charles?

      Charles P: Yes, Stewart, I understand what axiomatic means. I do not know
      why a reasonable person would write a foolish thing.

      http://www.thefreedictionary.com/axiomatic Of, relating to, or resembling
      an axiom; self-evident.

      Charles P: Living things are designed to evolve. It is axiomatic. It is
      self-evident. It is well-described in 1,162 references cited in Evolution:
      A View From The 21st Century.

      James A Shapiro:
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/29246 Cells
      are built to evolve; they have the ability to alter their hereditary
      characteristics rapidly through well-described natural genetic engineering
      and epigenetic processes as well as by cell mergers.


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    • Charles Palm
      Tia Ghose: http://www.livescience.com/25190-genetic-roots-vertebrate-intelligence.html Cognitive Big Bang Discovered in Tiny Sea Worm. Several brainy
      Message 38 of 38 , Dec 5, 2012
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        Tia Ghose:
        http://www.livescience.com/25190-genetic-roots-vertebrate-intelligence.html
        'Cognitive Big Bang' Discovered in Tiny Sea Worm. Several "brainy"
        genes
        that were duplicated in a tiny sea creature nearly 550 million years ago
        may have led to the massive expansion in intelligence in vertebrate
        species, two new studies have found.

        James A Shapiro: References #40, #41: Life requires cognition at all
        levels.

        James A Shapiro: References #93 - #95: We can think of this two-level
        proofreading process as equivalent to a quality-control system in human
        manufacturing. Like human quality-control systems, it is based on
        surveillance and correction (cognitive processes) rather than mechanical
        precision. The multistep nature of proofreading is typical of many control
        processes in cells,
        where final precision is achieved by a sequence of two or more interactions
        that are each themselves inherently less precise. In this regard, the most
        applicable cybernetic models are fuzzy logic control systems. In such
        systems, accurate regulation occurs by overlaying multiple imprecise
        (“fuzzy”) feedback controls arranged so that each successive event results
        in greater precision.

        James A Shapiro: In other words, we have numerous precise molecular
        descriptions of cell cognition, which range all the way from bacterial
        nutrition to mammalian cell biology and development. The cognitive,
        informatic view of how living cells operate and utilize their genomes is
        radically different from the genetic determinism perspective articulated
        most succinctly, in the
        last century, by Francis Crick’s famous “Central Dogma of Molecular
        Biology.” So it is appropriate to direct our attention to evaluating the
        validity of Crick’s formulation in light of 21st Century knowledge.

        James A Shapiro: A shift from thinking about gradual selection of
        localized random changes to sudden genome restructuring by sensory
        network-influenced cell systems is a major conceptual change. It replaces
        the “invisible hands” of geological time and natural selection with
        cognitive networks and cellular functions for self-modification. The
        emphasis is systemic rather than atomistic and information-based rather
        than stochastic.

        Stochastic: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/stochastic Involving chance
        or probability.


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