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29887Re: Has Evolution Really Been a Help?

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  • gluadys
    Oct 24, 2012
      --- In OriginsTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Laurie Appleton" <lappleto@...> wrote:
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      > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 11:36 AM
      > Subject: [OriginsTalk] Re: Has Evolution Really Been a Help?
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      > > Kurt: Good points and good question. We can all benefit from the sincere study of nature from both evolution-minded and creation-minded folks. Just reading Origin of Species is a huge undertaking for most of us, I respect it. My concern is the unjustified authority evolutionary theory enjoys.
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      > GLU: In science, evolution enjoys exactly the same authority as any other theory well-grounded in and substantiated by relevant evidence and capable of stimulating additional research in the field. No more, no less. This is not unjustified. It is the basis of justification for all scientific propositions. I would challenge you to find a better one.
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      > LA> Your claim has been shown to be completely wrong by evolutonists who have admitted that the Creation Scientists "regularly routed" their evolutionary opponents in what was a decade of hundreds of open, public, scientific debates! One example is the following from a noted evolutionary Biologist;
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      > "Why do creationists seem to be the consistent
      > winners in public debates with evolutionists? . . .
      > We biologists are our own worst enemies in the
      > creationist-evolutionist controversies."
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      > "We must no longer duck this and other issues
      > related to biology and human affairs, and when we do
      > face them we must think clearly and express ourselves
      > accordingly. We may still not be consistent winners in
      > the creationist- evolutionist debates, but let the
      > losses that occur be attributable to other than lapses
      > in professional standards.
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      > ("Evolution/Creation Debate," Bioscience, Vol.30, January 1980, p. 4)
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      Being a good scientist and being a good debater call for different skill sets that do not always overlap in the same person. Losing a live debate doesn't undermine an iota of the evidence that supports evolution. And a scientist who is also a good debater can also rout an evolution-denying creationist quite easily.

      Note as well, that evolution-denying creationists typically flee written debates, where responders can take time to reply at length and readers can take time to thoughtfully consider both points of view. It seems that unless they can do quick, drive-by damage, they can do nothing at all. They have no answers to real evidence.





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