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  • Justin Kahn
    An interesting prospect. I have one each of the Langley brass etchings (which were not inexpensive, and fall under the heading of better-than-nothing), which
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      An interesting prospect. I have one each of the Langley brass etchings (which were not inexpensive, and fall under the heading of better-than-nothing), which I have yet to
      build (I DID assemble the goods wagons and brakevan kits, with some extra detail). It would be nice to have better trucks (bogies for all of you in the UK) for them.

      Jace Kahn, General Manager
      Ceres and Canisteo RR Co.


      >
      > Whilst admiring Kevin Trims (Dorset Models) Welshpool
      > coaches at ExpoNg, the conversation turned to L&B
      > coaches.Kevin has said that he would be interested in
      > producing them, if there was enough interest.I have
      > confirmed with JdF that he is not proceeding with his
      > models in this scale.
      > So if anyone is interested could they contact me off
      > list and I will pass it on to Kevin.The coaches would
      > cost approx 100 GBP and would be complete kits with
      > roof,bogies,seats.Also the option of original and
      > altered versions should be available with extra frets.
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    • Justin Kahn
      Off-topic, I m afraid, but perhaps some of the list members in the UK can tell me what has happened to Alan Sutton Publishing. After someone mentioned the Rolt
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        Off-topic, I'm afraid, but perhaps some of the list members in the UK can tell me what has happened to Alan Sutton Publishing.
        After someone mentioned the Rolt autobiography during the previous thread, I ordered a copy of the paperbound omnibus of the Landscape trilogy
        (which IS fascinating, including the origin of the Alvis discussed earlier) and realized that, although there is a list of illustrations, there are no illustrations.
        I went to the internet to contact Sutton and discovered that apparently the firm no longer exists, at least electronically.

        Jace Kahn, General Manager
        Ceres and Canisteo RR Co.



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      • Martin Field
        Jace, that sounds very strange indeed.  When I was with Sonia Rolt recently at Stanley Pontlarge she had piles of books waiting to go out on her kitchen table
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          Jace, that sounds very strange indeed.  When I was with Sonia Rolt recently at Stanley Pontlarge she had piles of books waiting to go out on her kitchen table and was telling how she might be increasing the list if the publishers were willing.
          I don't know about electronically since I use the Internet only for groups and e-mails.
          If I hear anything through my canal connections I'll let you know.
          Cheers, Martin

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          Subject: [O14] More Rolt
          To: o14@yahoogroups.com
          Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 4:36 PM







          Off-topic, I'm afraid, but perhaps some of the list members in the UK can tell me what has happened to Alan Sutton Publishing.
          After someone mentioned the Rolt autobiography during the previous thread, I ordered a copy of the paperbound omnibus of the Landscape trilogy
          (which IS fascinating, including the origin of the Alvis discussed earlier) and realized that, although there is a list of illustrations, there are no illustrations.
          I went to the internet to contact Sutton and discovered that apparently the firm no longer exists, at least electronically.

          Jace Kahn, General Manager
          Ceres and Canisteo RR Co.

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        • Martin Field
          Jace, that sounds very strange indeed.  When I was with Sonia Rolt recently at Stanley Pontlarge she had piles of books waiting to go out on her kitchen table
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            Jace, that sounds very strange indeed.  When I was with Sonia Rolt recently at Stanley Pontlarge she had piles of books waiting to go out on her kitchen table and was telling how she might be increasing the list if the publishers were willing.
            I don't know about electronically since I use the Internet only for groups and e-mails.
            If I hear anything through my canal connections I'll let you know.
            Cheers, Martin

            --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Justin Kahn <harumd@...> wrote:

            From: Justin Kahn <harumd@...>
            Subject: [O14] More Rolt
            To: o14@yahoogroups.com
            Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 4:36 PM







            Off-topic, I'm afraid, but perhaps some of the list members in the UK can tell me what has happened to Alan Sutton Publishing.
            After someone mentioned the Rolt autobiography during the previous thread, I ordered a copy of the paperbound omnibus of the Landscape trilogy
            (which IS fascinating, including the origin of the Alvis discussed earlier) and realized that, although there is a list of illustrations, there are no illustrations.
            I went to the internet to contact Sutton and discovered that apparently the firm no longer exists, at least electronically.

            Jace Kahn, General Manager
            Ceres and Canisteo RR Co.

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          • Justin Kahn
            I did locate the illustration section finally (very well-concealed); I am almost done with the first part (and skipped ahead a bit to read his account of
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              I did locate the illustration section finally (very well-concealed); I am almost done with the first part (and skipped ahead a bit to read his account of Talyllyn beginnings) and consider that the trilogy is one of the finest examples of autobiography as social history I've come across, right up there with Woodruff's two Nab End volumes (which I also recently stumbled across, stimulated by reading of his recent death). Interestingly, both deal with pre-WWII industrial conditions.
              Jace Kahn, General Manager
              Ceres and Canisteo RR Co.

              >
              > Jace, that sounds very strange indeed. When I was with Sonia Rolt recently at Stanley Pontlarge she had piles of books waiting to go out on her kitchen table and was telling how she might be increasing the list if the publishers were willing.
              > I don't know about electronically since I use the Internet only for groups and e-mails.
              > If I hear anything through my canal connections I'll let you know.
              > Cheers, Martin
              >
              > Off-topic, I'm afraid, but perhaps some of the list members in the UK can tell me what has happened to Alan Sutton Publishing.
              > After someone mentioned the Rolt autobiography during the previous thread, I ordered a copy of the paperbound omnibus of the Landscape trilogy
              > (which IS fascinating, including the origin of the Alvis discussed earlier) and realized that, although there is a list of illustrations, there are no illustrations.
              > I went to the internet to contact Sutton and discovered that apparently the firm no longer exists, at least electronically.
              >

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            • Justin Kahn
              Forgot to raise the question of what happened to Sutton--stumbling around the internet, apparently the founder sold out to some corporate types (who presumably
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                Forgot to raise the question of what happened to Sutton--stumbling around the internet, apparently the founder sold out to some corporate types (who presumably made a mess of a specialist range) and subsequently bought the operation back. But nothing electronic up at this point. I'm not sure whether
                everything Rolt ever published is worth reprinting (he acknowledges in the trilogy that he seemed to have laid a few eggs), but surely quite a bit is.
                Jace Kahn, General Manager
                Ceres and Canisteo RR Co.

                >
                > Jace, that sounds very strange indeed. When I was with Sonia Rolt recently at Stanley Pontlarge she had piles of books waiting to go out on her kitchen table and was telling how she might be increasing the list if the publishers were willing.
                > I don't know about electronically since I use the Internet only for groups and e-mails.
                > If I hear anything through my canal connections I'll let you know.
                > Cheers, Martin

                > Off-topic, I'm afraid, but perhaps some of the list members in the UK can tell me what has happened to Alan Sutton Publishing.
                > After someone mentioned the Rolt autobiography during the previous thread, I ordered a copy of the paperbound omnibus of the Landscape trilogy
                > (which IS fascinating, including the origin of the Alvis discussed earlier) and realized that, although there is a list of illustrations, there are no illustrations.
                > I went to the internet to contact Sutton and discovered that apparently the firm no longer exists, at least electronically.


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              • Martin Field
                Jace, as far as I m concerned, everything he wrote is worth republishing, but as much of it was rather dry company histories, they would of course, be of
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                  Jace, as far as I'm concerned, everything he wrote is worth republishing, but as much of it was rather dry company histories, they would of course, be of limited interest.  I firmly believe his staple works should be re-published, like High Horse Riderless and Clouded Mirror, with perhaps Winterstoke and Worcestershire. They are all wonderfully written.  I have first editions of all, but my High Horse Riderless is starting to fall apart, I've read it so many times.
                  You could try writing to Sonia, but she has a track record of answering sometimes or never!  Plus, she was quite ill most of this year.
                  Cheers, Martin

                  --- On Tue, 4/11/08, Justin Kahn <harumd@...> wrote:

                  From: Justin Kahn <harumd@...>
                  Subject: RE: [O14] More Rolt
                  To: o14@yahoogroups.com
                  Date: Tuesday, 4 November, 2008, 1:48 AM







                  Forgot to raise the question of what happened to Sutton--stumbling around the internet, apparently the founder sold out to some corporate types (who presumably made a mess of a specialist range) and subsequently bought the operation back. But nothing electronic up at this point. I'm not sure whether
                  everything Rolt ever published is worth reprinting (he acknowledges in the trilogy that he seemed to have laid a few eggs), but surely quite a bit is.
                  Jace Kahn, General Manager
                  Ceres and Canisteo RR Co.

                  >
                  > Jace, that sounds very strange indeed. When I was with Sonia Rolt recently at Stanley Pontlarge she had piles of books waiting to go out on her kitchen table and was telling how she might be increasing the list if the publishers were willing.
                  > I don't know about electronically since I use the Internet only for groups and e-mails.
                  > If I hear anything through my canal connections I'll let you know.
                  > Cheers, Martin

                  > Off-topic, I'm afraid, but perhaps some of the list members in the UK can tell me what has happened to Alan Sutton Publishing.
                  > After someone mentioned the Rolt autobiography during the previous thread, I ordered a copy of the paperbound omnibus of the Landscape trilogy
                  > (which IS fascinating, including the origin of the Alvis discussed earlier) and realized that, although there is a list of illustrations, there are no illustrations.
                  > I went to the internet to contact Sutton and discovered that apparently the firm no longer exists, at least electronically.

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                • Martin Field
                  Jace, I m not aware of Woodruff. Could you tell me a bit about him? Martin ... From: Justin Kahn Subject: RE: [O14] More Rolt To:
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                    Jace, I'm not aware of Woodruff. Could you tell me a bit about him?
                    Martin

                    --- On Tue, 4/11/08, Justin Kahn <harumd@...> wrote:

                    From: Justin Kahn <harumd@...>
                    Subject: RE: [O14] More Rolt
                    To: o14@yahoogroups.com
                    Date: Tuesday, 4 November, 2008, 1:44 AM

                    I did locate the illustration section finally (very well-concealed); I am
                    almost done with the first part (and skipped ahead a bit to read his account of
                    Talyllyn beginnings) and consider that the trilogy is one of the finest examples
                    of autobiography as social history I've come across, right up there with
                    Woodruff's two Nab End volumes (which I also recently stumbled across,
                    stimulated by reading of his recent death). Interestingly, both deal with
                    pre-WWII industrial conditions.
                    Jace Kahn, General Manager
                    Ceres and Canisteo RR Co.

                    >
                    > Jace, that sounds very strange indeed. When I was with Sonia Rolt
                    recently at Stanley Pontlarge she had piles of books waiting to go out on her
                    kitchen table and was telling how she might be increasing the list if the
                    publishers were willing.
                    > I don't know about electronically since I use the Internet only for
                    groups and e-mails.
                    > If I hear anything through my canal connections I'll let you know.
                    > Cheers, Martin
                    >
                    > Off-topic, I'm afraid, but perhaps some of the list members in the UK
                    can tell me what has happened to Alan Sutton Publishing.
                    > After someone mentioned the Rolt autobiography during the previous thread,
                    I ordered a copy of the paperbound omnibus of the Landscape trilogy
                    > (which IS fascinating, including the origin of the Alvis discussed
                    earlier) and realized that, although there is a list of illustrations, there are
                    no illustrations.
                    > I went to the internet to contact Sutton and discovered that apparently
                    the firm no longer exists, at least electronically.
                    >

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                  • Justin Kahn
                    Retired history professor, just died a few weeks back in his nineties; wrote several well-received academic works, but gained popular attention for two
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                      Retired history professor, just died a few weeks back in his nineties; wrote several well-received academic works, but gained popular
                      attention for two excellent memoirs of his boyhood and young manhood, growing up among Midlands weavers and then making his
                      way to London in the middle of the Great Depression to find work in a foundry. The Road to Nab End and Beyond Nab End.

                      Jace Kahn, General Manager
                      Ceres and Canisteo RR Co.


                      > Jace, I'm not aware of Woodruff. Could you tell me a bit about him?
                      > Martin
                      >
                      > --- On Tue, 4/11/08, Justin Kahn <harumd@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > From: Justin Kahn <harumd@...>
                      > Subject: RE: [O14] More Rolt
                      > To: o14@yahoogroups.com
                      > Date: Tuesday, 4 November, 2008, 1:44 AM
                      >
                      > I did locate the illustration section finally (very well-concealed); I am
                      > almost done with the first part (and skipped ahead a bit to read his account of
                      > Talyllyn beginnings) and consider that the trilogy is one of the finest examples
                      > of autobiography as social history I've come across, right up there with
                      > Woodruff's two Nab End volumes (which I also recently stumbled across,
                      > stimulated by reading of his recent death). Interestingly, both deal with
                      > pre-WWII industrial conditions.
                      > Jace Kahn, General Manager
                      > Ceres and Canisteo RR Co.
                      >
                      > >
                      > > Jace, that sounds very strange indeed. When I was with Sonia Rolt
                      > recently at Stanley Pontlarge she had piles of books waiting to go out on her
                      > kitchen table and was telling how she might be increasing the list if the
                      > publishers were willing.
                      > > I don't know about electronically since I use the Internet only for
                      > groups and e-mails.
                      > > If I hear anything through my canal connections I'll let you know.
                      > > Cheers, Martin
                      > >
                      > > Off-topic, I'm afraid, but perhaps some of the list members in the UK
                      > can tell me what has happened to Alan Sutton Publishing.
                      > > After someone mentioned the Rolt autobiography during the previous thread,
                      > I ordered a copy of the paperbound omnibus of the Landscape trilogy
                      > > (which IS fascinating, including the origin of the Alvis discussed
                      > earlier) and realized that, although there is a list of illustrations, there are
                      > no illustrations.
                      > > I went to the internet to contact Sutton and discovered that apparently
                      > the firm no longer exists, at least electronically.
                      > >
                      >
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                    • adriangrayfr
                      ... around the internet, apparently the founder sold out to some corporate types (who presumably made a mess of a specialist range) and subsequently bought the
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                        --- In O14@yahoogroups.com, Justin Kahn <harumd@...> wrote:
                        >
                        >
                        > Forgot to raise the question of what happened to Sutton--stumbling
                        around the internet, apparently the founder sold out to some corporate
                        types (who presumably made a mess of a specialist range) and
                        subsequently bought the operation back. But nothing electronic up at
                        this point.

                        Justin,

                        The answers you are looking for MIGHT be found here..being deeply
                        interested in railway books helps when you are trying to unravel some
                        of the meanderings!

                        Tempus Publishing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                        Tempus Publishing are a United Kingdom-based publishing company.
                        Founded in 1993 by Alan Sutton, Tempus are part of the Nonsuch
                        Publishing Group. Tempus mainly publish history books and have bases in
                        Germany, France, Belgium and the United States. Now defunct and taken
                        over by the History Press.
                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempus_Publishing

                        I have to say that, in my experience, Alan Sutton books had a very poor
                        reputation for the quality of the photographic reproduction - grey,
                        murky, lacking in contrast and brightness ad of little use for serious
                        students because all the detail got lost.
                        Tempus didn't improve matters much until quite late on in their tenure.

                        Adrian
                      • Martin Field
                        Thanks Jace, I ll look into them. Martin ... From: Justin Kahn Subject: RE: [O14] More Rolt To: o14@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 4
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                          Thanks Jace, I'll look into them.
                          Martin

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                          From: Justin Kahn <harumd@...>
                          Subject: RE: [O14] More Rolt
                          To: o14@yahoogroups.com
                          Date: Tuesday, 4 November, 2008, 1:26 PM







                          Retired history professor, just died a few weeks back in his nineties; wrote several well-received academic works, but gained popular
                          attention for two excellent memoirs of his boyhood and young manhood, growing up among Midlands weavers and then making his
                          way to London in the middle of the Great Depression to find work in a foundry. The Road to Nab End and Beyond Nab End.

                          Jace Kahn, General Manager
                          Ceres and Canisteo RR Co.

                          > Jace, I'm not aware of Woodruff. Could you tell me a bit about him?
                          > Martin
                          >
                          > --- On Tue, 4/11/08, Justin Kahn <harumd@hotmail. com> wrote:
                          >
                          > From: Justin Kahn <harumd@hotmail. com>
                          > Subject: RE: [O14] More Rolt
                          > To: o14@yahoogroups. com
                          > Date: Tuesday, 4 November, 2008, 1:44 AM
                          >
                          > I did locate the illustration section finally (very well-concealed) ; I am
                          > almost done with the first part (and skipped ahead a bit to read his account of
                          > Talyllyn beginnings) and consider that the trilogy is one of the finest examples
                          > of autobiography as social history I've come across, right up there with
                          > Woodruff's two Nab End volumes (which I also recently stumbled across,
                          > stimulated by reading of his recent death). Interestingly, both deal with
                          > pre-WWII industrial conditions.
                          > Jace Kahn, General Manager
                          > Ceres and Canisteo RR Co.
                          >
                          > >
                          > > Jace, that sounds very strange indeed. When I was with Sonia Rolt
                          > recently at Stanley Pontlarge she had piles of books waiting to go out on her
                          > kitchen table and was telling how she might be increasing the list if the
                          > publishers were willing.
                          > > I don't know about electronically since I use the Internet only for
                          > groups and e-mails.
                          > > If I hear anything through my canal connections I'll let you know.
                          > > Cheers, Martin
                          > >
                          > > Off-topic, I'm afraid, but perhaps some of the list members in the UK
                          > can tell me what has happened to Alan Sutton Publishing.
                          > > After someone mentioned the Rolt autobiography during the previous thread,
                          > I ordered a copy of the paperbound omnibus of the Landscape trilogy
                          > > (which IS fascinating, including the origin of the Alvis discussed
                          > earlier) and realized that, although there is a list of illustrations, there are
                          > no illustrations.
                          > > I went to the internet to contact Sutton and discovered that apparently
                          > the firm no longer exists, at least electronically.
                          > >
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