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  • William Gartin
    ... I m not sure, but I believe they screw in. I ve never had them out on mine. Anyone? ... I m not sure how to define stiff without actually feeling it for
    Message 1 of 11 , Apr 1 1:23 AM
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      on 3/31/01 12:59 PM, Nikon Photo wrote:

      > 1. Persuant to Nikon F ser # 7068858Are posts or lugs for camera strap
      > replaceable?

      I'm not sure, but I believe they screw in. I've never had them out on mine.
      Anyone?

      > 2. Should one be concerned with a some what stiff feel to advance lever and a
      > rough clicc when returning lever to against body?

      I'm not sure how to define stiff without actually feeling it for myself,
      though I believe the F was a bit more so than later models. There is a click
      when the lever is pressed back to it's stowed position, which seems a bit
      more notchy than on my FM. You might want to see if you can find a couple of
      other F's at a shop to compare the lever feel to.

      > 3. The FTN finder ser# 562879 has a black plastic tipped lever to remove it
      > from body. Is this a late Finder? Should the finder have foam or rubber
      > between it and body?

      As far as I know the FTn (last version for the F) is the only one of the
      Photomic finders with the front lock-down lever. It should also have the
      narrower 1/2" indicator slot in front with the numbers 5.6_2.8_1.2 above it
      to indicate the maximum f-stop of the lens. With this finder, always turn
      the aperture ring fully both ways after mounting a lens. The T and Tn
      finders have a much wider face-plate than the FTn. The FTn is also the first
      Nikon finder to display the shutter speed in the viewfinder. There is no
      foam in mine.

      > 4. Is the cheapest way to check shutter speeds to check them against a known
      > good body while exposing film?

      I haven't done this, so someone else here will likely have a much better
      answer. As I understand it, if you choose this method, you should use slide
      film due to the reduced exposure latitude, and to avoid having exposure
      "corrected" in printing. It might be wise to have it checked at a shop, but
      if it seems to be okay, keep using it. You might want to exercise all the
      speeds before testing. (Three sets of 12 reps each... Ack! Kidding! ;-)

      > 5. The finder not working and body in excellent shape was 139.00 plus 10.00
      > shipping. Ican have meter repaired and callibrated for 85.00. Do you think
      > this is a keeper.

      Hard to say without seeing it, but it sounds like a reasonable price to me,
      if it's in generally good working order. I'd get the meter fixed. I
      understand Robert Decker in Utah does a good job with these. He specializes
      in F and F2 heads, and has a website at:
      http://hometown.aol.com/drwyn/myhomepage/index.html

      There may be better Nikons, but there are none with more class, IMHO. Check
      out Michael C Liu's Nikon Classic Camera Bodies site for a wealth of
      information, including the Photomic heads at:
      http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/michaeliu/camera.htm

      > Also I was comparing the F to my 74 F2 which I bought new.

      Nice. I think I'd like to add an F2 to the family someday. Maybe an F2AS?
      --
      William Gartin <william_gartin@...>
    • LAWRENCE REISS
      On the F body, there is a metal spring clip held by two screws against the advance lever mechanism that determines the way the advance lever clicks back
      Message 2 of 11 , Apr 10 10:28 AM
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        On the F body, there is a metal spring clip held by two screws against the
        advance lever mechanism that determines the way the advance lever clicks
        back against the body. In some cases it becomes quite stiff to return the
        advance lever after the body has been serviced because this clip gets moved
        slightly into a new spot. Sometimes it needs to be shifted a tiny bit by
        loosening it's two attaching screws. More often,
        a small bit of grease at the contact points will resolve the problem.


        >2. Should one be concerned with a some what stiff feel to advance lever and
        > a
        >rough clicc when returning lever to against body?

        Also if the advance lever tension is very high when advancing the film, it
        could be due to the shutter curtain springs being adjusted too tight.

        If rewind tension is too tight, it is very likely due to the clutch on the
        film takeup spool being too tight. These tended to be adjusted rather tight
        when new, and in any case, when the lubricant dries out they can become
        stiff leading to excessive rewind tension. This item is not discussed in
        the factory service manual that I purchased...

        Since the parts involved are plastic, silicone grease is a good choice.

        Lawrence



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      • Kaczmarek Edvard
        Dear guys, This is my first message on this list, so I introduce myself: I m an electrical engineer and IT specialist from Hungary. Recently I took up SLR
        Message 3 of 11 , Apr 10 2:30 PM
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          Dear guys,

          This is my first message on this list, so I introduce myself: I'm an
          electrical engineer and IT specialist from Hungary. Recently I took up SLR
          photography, and happened to get into the Nikon system.

          Today I came across an ad of an FE2 with meter failure. The price is very
          attractive, so I checked it. It turned out that everything works well
          except that the meter needle sometimes sticks in one position (not in the
          same one every time, but it seems to have special points where it is more
          prone to do that), but the shutter speed is correctly set even these times
          (that's what the seller says, I could only verify that the shutter sounds
          faster when there is more light...). Most of the times the needle seems to
          move as it should. The camera shows signs of wear. The housing is dented
          on the finder, the black paint is worn off on the edges. The inside seems
          to be in good condition, except that the mirror has small scratches.

          Do you think a cleaning and lubrication would help the needle problem (I
          know a very experienced Nikon repairman who would do it, not me...), or
          might there be something more serious behind this? Also, what else should
          I check when I meet the owner again?

          Thanks in advance for the advice,

          Ed
        • wdshpbiz@aol.com
          Ed, If the needle is sticking but the exposures are still correct, it could be that there is some mechanical problem with the needle itself. Perhaps the same
          Message 4 of 11 , Apr 10 6:22 PM
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            Ed,

            If the needle is sticking but the exposures are still correct, it could be
            that there is some mechanical problem with the needle itself. Perhaps the
            same banging around that caused the external wear was enough to damage the
            meter needle workings. The repair could be as simple as clearing or bending
            an obstruction out of the way. Of course, this is just a guess, but I have
            seen this occur on some of the old match needle meter mechanisms in old
            Nikkormats.

            William Sampson
            http://hometown.aol.com/wdshpbiz/AImod.html


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          • Kaczmarek Edvard
            Dear guys, I would like to change the screen in my F70 for one that has a split-image manual focusing aid. I know that the screens for the F801/N8000 fit into
            Message 5 of 11 , May 28, 2001
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              Dear guys,

              I would like to change the screen in my F70 for one that has a split-image
              manual focusing aid. I know that the screens for the F801/N8000 fit into
              the F70 after removing the little tab from them (a fellow user kindly lent
              me such a J screen - I will have a roll developed in a few days to check
              focusing and metering with it), but none of the screens for the 801 have
              the split-image rangefinder. The microprisms don't really suit me as a
              manual focusing aid. Do you know of a screen for a different model that
              has the same dimensions and opacity (for metering accuracy) as the one for
              the 801 and is available with a split-image rangefinder?

              Kind regards,

              Ed


              P.S. You might remember that I wrote about an FE2 with a meter failure a
              few weeks ago. Well, I bought it and had it serviced. The meter and the
              shutter needed repair, but no components had to be exchaged. In the end, I
              got a perfectly working FE2 for a bargain price. Only a little problem
              remains: it also has a B screen... Now I try to find a used K screen for
              it. If I can't, I will have to buy a new one, but it would cost a quarter
              of what I paid for the whole camera...
            • Rick Housh
              ... The manual focus version of the N6006/F601 body, the N6000/F601M has a split image rangefinder. I don t know about the size, and whether it will fit the
              Message 6 of 11 , May 28, 2001
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                At 5/28/2001 11:35 AM +0200, Ed wrote:
                >I would like to change the screen in my F70 for one that has a split-image
                >manual focusing aid. I know that the screens for the F801/N8000 fit into
                >the F70 after removing the little tab from them (a fellow user kindly lent
                >me such a J screen - I will have a roll developed in a few days to check
                >focusing and metering with it), but none of the screens for the 801 have
                >the split-image rangefinder. The microprisms don't really suit me as a
                >manual focusing aid. Do you know of a screen for a different model that
                >has the same dimensions and opacity (for metering accuracy) as the one for
                >the 801 and is available with a split-image rangefinder?

                The manual focus version of the N6006/F601 body, the N6000/F601M has a
                split image rangefinder. I don't know about the size, and whether it will
                fit the F70, but the F70 was the "successor" to the F601 series, so it
                might fit. However, the split image rangefinder in the F601M is the reason
                it does not have the spot meter of the F601, and I'm not at all sure it
                wouldn't also mess up the autofocus, so I'd be cautious about making such a
                drastic switch, even if the screen would fit the F70.

                - Rick Housh -
              • Hansen, Lars Holst
                Hi, Since the N70 (F70) has the typical syetem with a secondary mirror and AF sensors placed in the bottom of the mirror house, I see no reason for the screen
                Message 7 of 11 , May 28, 2001
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                  Hi,
                  Since the N70 (F70) has the typical syetem with a secondary mirror and AF
                  sensors placed in the bottom of the mirror house, I see no reason for the
                  screen to affect AF. Spot metereing is another possible problem, though (as
                  also touched by Rick bellow).
                  Check this thread on a J screen in N8008s and spot metering:
                  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NikonMF/message/4548

                  Best regards,
                  Lars

                  > Rick Housh wrote:
                  > The manual focus version of the N6006/F601 body, the N6000/F601M has a
                  > split image rangefinder. I don't know about the size, and whether it will
                  >
                  > fit the F70, but the F70 was the "successor" to the F601 series, so it
                  > might fit. However, the split image rangefinder in the F601M is the
                  > reason
                  > it does not have the spot meter of the F601, and I'm not at all sure it
                  > wouldn't also mess up the autofocus, so I'd be cautious about making such
                  > a
                  > drastic switch, even if the screen would fit the F70.
                  >
                • Rick Housh
                  ... I read the message cited by Lars above, which says the F801 manual states its spotmeter won t work with the split rangefinder, but that the author found it
                  Message 8 of 11 , May 28, 2001
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                    At 5/28/2001 04:18 PM +0200, Lars wrote:

                    >Since the N70 (F70) has the typical syetem with a secondary mirror and AF
                    >sensors placed in the bottom of the mirror house, I see no reason for the
                    >screen to affect AF. Spot metereing is another possible problem, though (as
                    >also touched by Rick bellow).
                    >Check this thread on a J screen in N8008s and spot metering:
                    >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NikonMF/message/4548

                    I read the message cited by Lars above, which says the F801 manual states
                    its spotmeter won't work with the split rangefinder, but that the author
                    found it did work. I'm skeptical that it will work reliably, especially if
                    Nikon says it won't. My experience with the N6000, which I forgot to
                    mention previously, was that some of the longer, slower lenses, especially
                    the AF zooms, caused severe blackening of half (or sometimes all) of the
                    center spot where the split image is located. I can't help but think it
                    will affect the accuracy of spot metering with those lenses, but perhaps it
                    will work with some other lenses.

                    - Rick Housh -
                  • Martin Jiang
                    Ed, If you are tired of the B2 screen on your FE2, I am willing to trade you with my K2 screen. if you are ure it s a B2 screen which has the uneven zig-zag
                    Message 9 of 11 , May 29, 2001
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                      Ed,

                      If you are tired of the B2 screen on your FE2, I am willing to trade you with my K2 screen. if you are ure it's a B2 screen which has the uneven zig-zag tab.

                      e-mail me at nikondoom@...

                      thanks

                      Martin
                      ----- Original Message -----
                      From: Kaczmarek Edvard
                      To: NikonRepair@yahoogroups.com
                      Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 5:35 AM
                      Subject: [NikonRepair] Screens for the F(N)70



                      Dear guys,

                      I would like to change the screen in my F70 for one that has a split-image
                      manual focusing aid. I know that the screens for the F801/N8000 fit into
                      the F70 after removing the little tab from them (a fellow user kindly lent
                      me such a J screen - I will have a roll developed in a few days to check
                      focusing and metering with it), but none of the screens for the 801 have
                      the split-image rangefinder. The microprisms don't really suit me as a
                      manual focusing aid. Do you know of a screen for a different model that
                      has the same dimensions and opacity (for metering accuracy) as the one for
                      the 801 and is available with a split-image rangefinder?

                      Kind regards,

                      Ed


                      P.S. You might remember that I wrote about an FE2 with a meter failure a
                      few weeks ago. Well, I bought it and had it serviced. The meter and the
                      shutter needed repair, but no components had to be exchaged. In the end, I
                      got a perfectly working FE2 for a bargain price. Only a little problem
                      remains: it also has a B screen... Now I try to find a used K screen for
                      it. If I can't, I will have to buy a new one, but it would cost a quarter
                      of what I paid for the whole camera...



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                    • Harold and Peni
                      Hi all, I am new to the group, but have a question. I recently purchased a late model F body, that came with an older photomic ft prism. The body
                      Message 10 of 11 , Jan 6, 2002
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                        Hi all,
                        I am new to the group, but have a question. I recently purchased a late model F body, that came with an older photomic ft prism. The body cosmetically looks like new, but the film advance is a little loose and about every 3rd shot needs to be "jiggled" to be able to fire. Is this easily fixed?
                        TIA.
                        Harold
                        Lacey, WA
                        peninhal@...


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