Brian, Jim, and todd,
Looks like we've turned over a bit of a can of worms here.
I'll fire a few questions off to the ng experts I know -- Herb Danneman
may be able to shed some light on the topic for instance.
Sounds like we all "assumed" it must have happened but not one of us
can put our finger on the "definitive" answer. This is a lot of fun!
I'll also use this as a excuse to do some research in Golden when I get
back next week.
Of course, the answer will be something really obvious -- such as "When
we needed to ice reefers, old Bob took a ladder and got on the roof of
the car. Then Ed tied the ice blocks to this rope, see. . . . "
I'm copying Tony Koester on this, not because I think he has the magic
bullet, but because I figured he'd be interested in hearing how no one,
on ANY of the various narrow gauge lists, has a definitive answer to
this question! Plus, maybe he knows the one guy to ask!
On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 09:40 AM, Brian Pate wrote:
> Hi Marty, Jim et al
> The photos I took of reefer icing at Alamosa (and I took a whole bunch
> than were published on the NWNG site) were of standard gauge reefers,
> the Alamosa icing platform was of the correct height for sg cars. If
> ng cars
> were ever iced at Alamosa at this platform, the track would have had
> to be
> been raised to bring the car roofs to about the same height as those
> of sg
> I have never seen pix of ng reefers being iced so I too would be
> in what turns up. There have been numerous photos published of the
> icing of
> standard gauge reefers, with the technology changing over the years.
> If one
> wanted to guess, the ng icing process would be similar to that used
> early on
> in that development, I suppose.
> Brian Pate
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marty McGuirk" <mac@...>
> To: <NWNG-Sn3Group@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 2:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [NWNG-Sn3Group] Re: Icing narrow gauge reefers
>> Hi Jim,
>> I think I remember the Alamosa photo as well.
>> Tim at BHI-Rail Systems, which publishes those little pocket "Quick
>> Pic" Guides to narrow gauge rolling stock sent me a neat link to his
>> Web site:
>> This was an except spreadsheet that I exported so you will have to
>> from left to right at the top line and see where the icing columns
>> are (
>> somewhere near the far right edge I believe) and go from there. The
>> data was
>> taken from DRG/DRGW timetables. Also I am just releasing my Quick Pic
>> on the DRGW long reefers and the short reefers is about 8 down in the
>> This confirmed Santa Fe once played host to a 70 ton icing platform --
>> the next step is figuring out what a 70 ton icing platform looked like
>> and where it was. Although on the layout it's going to have to be
>> placed where it will fit, even if it isn't exactly prototype.
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