Re: Nevada Central / Stockton & Ione boxcar
- I'm just joining this list, having discovered it today. My primary
RR interest for the past decade has been the Nevada Central and
Austin City Ry. I was in Lander County last week and coincidentally
visited this car at Dillon. It certainly is a strange beast.
Since the NC had three near-identical sheds along the line, I had
long considered these to have been built from the three S&I boxcars
received. Besides, the NC only had 2 S&I flatcars. But the existence
of end stake pockets between the endsill and what passes for a
bolster on this specific car lead me to believe this may have been a
flatcar. I hadn't seen this detail on the Berlin car, and couldn't
get inside that example to verify. Can anyone help on this point?
I have yet to find definitive evidence of the S&I cars running on
the NC prior to their becoming sheds. I'm not convinced they ever
ran in revenue service. Maybe someone out there has found evidence
to the contrary. I know for a fact that they were turned into sheds
by 1916. That date may be as early as 1905, as they don't show up on
an 1895-1905 period map at NHS. The cars don't appear to be on the
1898 roster. Were they just languishing in Battle Mountain prior to
that time? Were they in MOW service originally? Any ideas?
--- In NVnarrowgauge@y..., EANDPNG@A... wrote:
> With the help from a friend in Austin we found one of the ex S&I
> boxcars turned into section sheds on the Nevada Central. The car
> measured out almost exactly the same as the one at Berlin. Unlike
> the shed at Berlin this one is not cut in half. The car is very
> odd as it has no truss rods running the length of the car. I have
> uploaded pictures of the car in the files section.
I had always assumed that all five cars started out as flat cars. Did you try and find the third car / shed? My friend from Austin, Wally Trapnell and I looked for it at Watts but there was no sign. Sharon Taylor told me that it had been moved to the Valley of the Moon. I plan to look for it the next time I get to go down, maybe next fall. Did you find any thing else on your trip?
- --- EANDPNG@... wrote:
> Dave,Lyman Bridges records receiving 2 flats and 3 boxcars
> I had always assumed that all five cars started out
> as flat cars. Did you try
> and find the third car / shed? My friend from
> Austin, Wally Trapnell and I
> looked for it at Watts but there was no sign. Sharon
> Taylor told me that it
> had been moved to the Valley of the Moon. I plan to
> look for it the next time
> I get to go down, maybe next fall. Did you find any
> thing else on your trip?
in his 1879 reports, but they may all have been flats
to start. I didn't see the car when I visited Watts in
1998, and I didn't look this time. Watts is close to
the Valley of the Moon, it would be interesting to
check out. But if it's in the condition of the Dillon
car (see attachment), it'll be tough to find. I looked
at NHS for the 2 Watts photos showing the shed in
Sharon Taylor's thesis, but no one could find them.
I did find many interesting NC-related items, though I
feel you probably already know most of them. At UNR I
copied about 260 pages of RR communications between
Hiskey and McCulloch, dating 1926-1938. I also read
through the letterpress books at UNR and NHS,
transcribing most RR-related items, dating 1904-1938.
At UNR I ordered 10 photos, mostly Austin-related. Two
that I'd not seen before. One shows the Manhattan mill
from a different angle, with the AC tracks in the
foreground, and another shows the Concentrator, AC
engine house, with the Union mine above them. These
are both Crockwell, I believe, so mid-1887.
At NHS I saw at least 25 photos to order, and that's
ignoring another 15+ 1935-38 shots of BM. They have a
really nice side view of motor 102 in original config,
and a nice one of the NSL motor, head-on. You know the
ones, I'm sure.
At NDOT I finally located the AC Ry map. Also found an
SP valuation map of Battle Mountain, undated, but
possibly 1912, that shows the NC facilities clearer
than the ICC maps. And with some variation from the
At Battle Mountain I read the tax assessor ledgers,
1880-1938. They only list property in detail until
1913, but these fill some gaps in the rosters and
station listing I've been building.
Overall a great trip, with excellent weather, lots of
answers to questions, and at least one good Basque
meal! Battle Mountain is in full recession and the Owl
club was dead on Saturday night. Many stores closed,
though talk of a new gold mining operation is fulling
some hope for the future. No sign of those SOCo tank
cars, as you've noted in the past.
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That would be fun. I thought about organizing something like that for folks driving to the Salt Lake N.G. Convention but I had to scrub all my plans when my job went away. The problem is not very many of us live in Nevada. I hope to be down that way next fall some time as I hope to attend the V&T Symposium in Reno.
- I was thinking it might be fun to have a central Nevada narrow gauge
weekend. Maybe go from Battle Mountain to Austin and then over to Eureka and
back to Palisade.
>Subject: Re: [NVnarrowgauge] Re: Nevada Central / Stockton & Ione boxcar
>Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 00:11:30 EDT
>I had always assumed that all five cars started out as flat cars. Did you
>and find the third car / shed? My friend from Austin, Wally Trapnell and I
>looked for it at Watts but there was no sign. Sharon Taylor told me that it
>had been moved to the Valley of the Moon. I plan to look for it the next
>I get to go down, maybe next fall. Did you find any thing else on your
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