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Friday, February 22, 2002

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  • Gloria Lee
    ***************** JOYCE SHORT Shri Garlicji teaching After recent garlic chat I discovered clove of garlic budding on window sill-little green shoot growing
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      Shri Garlicji teaching

      After recent garlic chat I discovered clove of garlic budding on window
      sill-little green shoot growing turning into weak rays of Canadian winter
      sun.  It seems quite fine with where it is at, no struggle to grow quickly,
      no trying at all, it seems perfectly content and present.  Joyce's mind now
      worrying about whether Joyce should now plant little growing garlic in a
      pot.  Little garlic seems quite unperturbed.  It did occur tho, that
      whatever way is found, in the living or in the dying-there is no other place
      but the light. So I stopped worrying about wee plants and all sentient


      Joyce, you have garlic, I have sweet potatoes.

      Two varieties, actually, growing quite happily in a dark corner of my

      There is no light there, really, despite the short forays into
      incandescancy while I much about with kitchen stuff. No natural light,
      at any rate. Well, no matter, the sprouts keep themselves quite happily
      entertained and busy, from what I have observed.

      (My husband has stopped asking me if I ever plan on throwing those
      things out. He knows the answer - we have to find out where this

      Last summer, I took them out on the balcony and took their photograph.
      It is attached to this post. That, I think, is the only real light
      they've tasted in... um... nearly a year?

      In this case, where does the light come from, Joyce? I am full of


      DAN the shaman man
      For Nina-from a blind friend who is physicist and shaman. Enjoy.  Joyce

      Well, do you want the physics answer, or the spiritual answer?


      Atoms are bundles of protons and neutrons, surrounded by clouds of
      electrons in what are called energy states.  If you add energy to an atom,
      electricity, heat, sound in some cases, just most any energy, you excite
      the electrons.  The little buggers go into what is called a higher energy
      state, they get a real buzz on.

      But, like most erstwhile lovers, they tire after awhile and fall back to
      their normal energy state.  that energy is not lost, when the electrons
      return to "normal", a little teeny photon is given off.  Photons are
      electromagnetic energy.  If they are in certain wavelengths, they are
      visible light.

      If they are in other wavelengths, they are maybe ultraviolet light, radio
      waves or even x-rays.

      So, light comes from excited electrons.  In a fluorescent lamp, a little
      filiment glows with the voltage from the wall.  This produces a lot of
      electrons buzzing around the inside of the tube.  The inner surface of the
      tube is coated with rare earth elements from the high numbers on the
      periodic table of elephants...elements, I mean.  Those elements glow when
      they get excited, so the fluorescent bulb glows.

      The sun gives off light because of the thermonuclear reactions inside, they
      produce so much heat that they also make light, and we see.

      Spiritual light:

      This is the real light, physical light is nice, but some of us cannot see
      it and are none the worse off.

      Spiritual light happens when something inside of us gets excited, like the
      electrons, but far more diffuse and impossible to pin down in an experiment.

      This light floods the mind and fills the soul, it links us to everything
      that exists because it is the same.  Just as everyone who sees a beautiful
      full moon is linked in the seeing, all having spiritual light are linked in
      an even closer manner.

      Good question, fun to think about,

      Take good care,


      Ah, yes, thanks!

      Sometimes, light just appears out of thin air - one moment not
      accessible, just a mute glass tube mounted above a series of
      progressively deeper shelves, the next moment, you wiggle the switch
      (for the umpteenth time) and PReStO! something happens and you, and
      your study, and your poor, languishing cyclamen (given as a gift,
      begrudgingly and somewhat guiltily and poorly maintained no fault of
      mine just what happens in DIM Seattle) are cast into illumination
      that suddenly clears away a depth of 8 months of hardcore Seattle SAD
      to such a degree that you take to sunning yourself in that formerly
      dark backroom beneath the previous tenant's (very
      curious) "improvement" to your apartment (you can bet they weren't
      growing cyclamen), simply because your eyeballs feel so fresh and
      HeY! it must be good for you, because look at that cyclamen, it is
      blooming again and its not supposed to bloom until next summer and
      the next thing you know your skin also has a bloom to it and your
      libido is back and you don't mind drudging home from work 45 minutes
      one way in that PERPETUAL drizzle 500' UPHILL the whole way because
      you know you'll get your growlight fix as soon as you get home.

      Well, you know you're in trouble with your light addiction when you
      start avoiding your friends and reorganizing your schedule so you can
      spend more time with that 4' long tube and the juice it emits.

      Enlightenment at cost.

      Good thing I moved to the south. Addiction hides out easily here...



      Joyce & Friends,

      Yes, it might be that there is one that thing unites us all:

       those who believe in non-effort or those who believe in sadhana and
      discipline; those who believe that the nondualist path is simply a
      matter of "recognition" or those who believe that it will be the
      final out come of all sadhanas and realizations, regardless; those
      who believe that Sakti carries us to Siva, or those who believe, like
      Shankara, that Sakti is Maya and Siva can only be approached with the
      one pointed effort to reject all else...

      that one thing being that at some point, even if only for a while, we
      must stop "worrying about wee plants and all sentient beings", and
      give it all over to someone or something else, be it a Greater Power
      or a lesser power, but in any case, some other power.

      yours in the bonds,

      ...and my recommendation is that you all hand it over to me...

      Love, Mark
      ps (you were talking about money, weren't you?)
      Dear Listmembers, Guests, and Holy Matrons,

      I was recently, on this list, called an opportunist.
      I would like to make it perfectly clear that I have no
      idea what an "oppor" is, but I would be happy to tune
      yours for a small fee.

      Love, Mark

      JAN B.
      i'm a devotee
      no matter where i'm going
      prayer goes with me
      no matter what will happen
      whether sleeping or awake
      faith remains untouched
      what outshines all lights
      what throws shadows from the sun
      for this light i long
      whether pleasant or with pain
      whether sleeping or awake
      both in prayer and in song
      and when in the bathroom
      i remain a prayer too

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