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  • andrew macnab
    Hi Jerry, I too feel there is effortless movement afoot. In me is a moving of evolutionary momentum through stillness into the unknown. The feeling is a mix
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      Hi Jerry,

      I too feel there is effortless movement afoot.

      In me is a moving of evolutionary momentum
      through stillness into the unknown. The feeling
      is a mix of aliveness and joy.

      Let the light shine on your teacherless list,
      and may I someday earn my place on it.

      Ed
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      Re: The List of People Who Don't Want to be on the List

      Ed, Jerry,

      Whoever posted that, it's hilarious!

      Here is a burning question. Do those selected for the list of those who
      don't want to be on the nondual teachers list have to be authorized by
      someone *already* on the list of those who don't want to be on the list?
      We don't want any pop-ups or phoneys on this smaller, more exlusive list.
      Other than authorization by one already recognized as being on the list,
      how can the average web-surfer recognize those who *truly* belong there?

      --Greg
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      Hi Greg and Ed,

      As crazy as it sounds, it is a real list. However, I don't decide who
      goes on it. The people on it have requested -- directly or, in the case
      of Mikaire, indirectly -- that they be taken off the list of
      realizers/confessors. All I have to do is determine whether their
      request is genuine. There has to be some history to their request.

      I'm now putting together a list of people whose fathers took Spanish in
      high school. But I'm getting smart. There will also be the parallel
      'people who don't want to be on the list of people whose fathers took
      Spanish in high school.'

      Hey Greg, you sound as clearly as though you are in New York!

      Love,

      Jerry
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      Subject: the great nonlist



      only one started it
      only one wanted on
      only one was rejected
      only one didn't care
      only one was accepted
      only one wanted off
      only one ended it

      so WHO is on the great nonlist?

      only one is
      only one is not

      with deep love to one and all,
      cee
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      Hi all,

      One of the most clear and straightforward explanations of enlightenment
      and liberation can be found at:

      http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/umbada/1000nit.htm


      It is so good that I printed it out for use in contemplation.

      Love,

      Victor
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      Jerry:
      > Where IS the best buffet in vegas? What else are you doing for fun out
      > there? Could they use another Elvis impersonator?
      >
      ********
      Actually, Meriann and I did go to a lunch buffet yesterday in one of the casinos. We
      took a day trip down to Boulder City and Hoover Dam, and stopped on the way back and
      had shrimp buffet with everything else imaginable, for $4.49. And to top it off, I won
      $20 on a slot machine trying to win this Mustang covertible for Meriann. :-) Next
      time. :-) Also, we did see this restaurant where they had Elvis pictures and
      memorabilia all over the place. Elvis is definitely big here. On one of the roller
      coasters at the casinos they had all these Elvis impersonators dressed up riding it.
      Last weekend this fellow, who is this very wealthy gambler, took Meriann and I out for
      dinner to the best restaurant in town I'm told, at the Plaza Hotel. It was downtown in
      this glass dome, overlooking the Fremont Street Experience Light and Music Show. We
      got the best seats in the house, right up front, Meriann was thrilled.

      If you haven't been to Vegas in a while, it's really gotten big. The hotels and
      casinos on the strip are tremendous with all their theme parks and roller coasters and
      what not. Lot of fun for kids. I live on the very outskirts of town out in the
      northwest. Rodney Dangerfield and Steven Wright were here in town a couple weeks ago,
      but I missed them. Hopefully next time. And Halloween is coming up, and you ain't
      lived until you've spent Halloween in Vegas! I'm planning on hitting the casinos with
      my ex son in law after trick or tricking. The casinos have all these contests and
      parties for the best costume. I was here a couple years ago on Halloween, if you
      remember, when my ex husband died, and Rocky and I did the casinos then too. Should be
      fun. I wish you could come, come as Elvis!
      :-)

      Love,
      Judi
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      As far as I know everyone without exception, including the so called
      enlightened ones, experiences sickness, old age and death. These are
      true sufferings. As far as I know it is not necessary to build on
      these true sufferings with false psychological sufferings. Woe is
      me. Why me Lord? I'm a piece of dog shit. etc. ...
      .
      Why wear a hair shirt?

      To each his own said the old lady as she kissed the cow.
      .
      Regards,
      .
      Victor
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      Hello to all at NDS list,

      My name is Gary, I'm from Cornwall in England. This is my first posting to
      the list and I hope I might make a worthwhile contribution from time to
      time. The list seems to be of a high quality and not without love and
      humour! Apologies in advance if I'm going over old ground or opening old
      cans of worms.

      I was considering today what it was about my thought process that had been
      causing me a problem and hindering my peace of mind. Why was it that peace
      of mind was no longer an immediate reality? How could it have been lost? Why
      couldn't I regain it? Well, I pondered that it was the nature of thought to
      turn everything into an ideal and to make a difference between what is and
      what should be, which is to say how I am and how I should be. Thought was
      making an idea which was an ideal . Dichotomy and conflict were continually
      setting in. A spoken or implicit 'should' was following me around like a
      cloud.

      So what to do about it? As it was thought that was continually bringing
      unease into being there was nothing I could do about it! Aha! I remembered
      what UG has said about him realising that he only had one tool with which to
      use to solve the problem of 'enlightenment' and that tool was the mind (or
      thought) and that he realised it couldn't do it. Yes exactly.

      Giving up again all hope of peace, enlightenment etc, etc, the whole
      dualistic pantheon I am again regaining my place, my home in the world and
      its OK its OK. Maybe someone else will come along and tell me different,
      tell me I should be enlightened, I should be better, for my own good. They
      might be right I don't know but earlier my life was should(ering) along in
      malfunction mode, but now its relatively friction free - no grit in oil.

      Looking up the word 'should' in the dictionary I see that its the past tense
      of 'shall', and that 'shall' originally expressed a debt or moral
      obligation. Love and freedom didn't figure, more like good business and
      security. Morality seems to have developed as a group tribal phenomenon to
      where we are today with mass nationalistic and religious groups ( I was born
      into several ugh), (I thought it a good idea to join new ones, double ugh!).
      So now the challenge is to stand alone, no judge, no should, - - call the
      side effect of this Trust or Faith.

      Hope you enjoyed todays confession :))

      with love from

      Gary (no longer carrying the weight of the world on his should(ers))
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      >MATTHEW:
      wrestling enlightenment is like trying to grab hold of
      mercury from a thermometer. You grab it and try to hold it in your
      hand and the tighter you try to hold it the quicker it escapes
      without you knowing it so you open your hand believing it has given
      up and it is gone. haha, the jokes on you. >

      Xan:
      ~ A little provoked, she drew back, and after
      looking everywhere for the Queen (whom she
      spied out at last, a long way off), she thought
      she would try the plan, this time, of walking in
      the opposite direction. It succeeded beautifully.

      from Through the Looking Glass and What Alice Found There
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      ~ My offering of unwanted advice, sky, is: when all these pains and
      pleasures arise, apply the infamous "So What" technique.
      Try it... it is free
      Xan

      Sky:
      But I love my feelings, both of pleasure and of pain. Besides,
      "so what" is also a feeling.

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      poem by charles bukowski

      roll the dice

      if you're going to try, go all the
      way.
      otherwise, don't even start.

      if you're going to try, go all the
      way.
      this could mean losing girlfriends,
      wives, relatives, jobs and
      maybe your mind.

      go all the way.
      it could mean not eating for 3 or
      4 days.
      it could mean freezing on a
      park bench.
      it could mean jail,
      it could mean derision,
      mockery,
      isolation.
      isolation is the gift,
      all the others are a test of your
      endurance, of
      how much you really want to
      do it.
      and you'll do it
      despite rejection and the
      worst odds
      and it will be better than anything else
      you can imagine.

      if you're going to try,
      go all the way.
      there is no other feeling like
      that.
      you will be alone with the
      gods.
      and the nights will flame with
      fire.

      do it, do it, do it,
      do it

      all the way
      all the way.

      you will ride life straight to
      perfect laughter, it's
      the only good fight
      there is.

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      good night friends,
      cee
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