#4707 - Friday, September 14, 2012 - Editor: Jerry Katz
- #4707 - Friday, September 14, 2012 - Editor: Jerry KatzThe Nonduality Highlights http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NDhighlights/New release from Non-Duality Press:
Excerpt from Full Stop! The Gateway to Present Perfection, by John Wheeler
Awareness and Pure Consciousness
Question: I was hoping to ask another question about an area of
confusion that tends to come and go. That is a big clue right there!
Ha! The awareness is here. And the I am as an assumption, or a
deeply held idea, is also clear.
John: Why even say it is deeply held? It is just an idea, one
among many others.
Q: There is a regular seeing of thoughts and feelings.
Q: There almost seems to be two levels of consciousness. One is the
personal conditioning of the human being that generates the experience
that each person perceives, and interprets events and others
according to their individual genetic and historical conditioning.
John: But this is not consciousness. It is an appearance in
the consciousness. It is rather mechanical, and, if you like,
Q: The other experience is the impersonal consciousness that seems
to manifest the phenomenal universe.
John: Yes, the universe appears in consciousness.
Q: It does seem that the body is needed in order to perceive the manifest
world. It is like a camera, a viewing lens that makes sense of
what otherwise could not be seen or experienced. Does this seem
right so far?
John: Exactly true.
Q: The non-conceptual awareness is prior to both of those and is the
source of both of them, in an ultimate sense.
John: If you want to use that language, I would agree. Some
people make a slight differentiation between consciousness
and awareness. In that case, consciousness is consciousness
of , while awareness shines before, during and after all acts or
experiences of consciousness. You are the awareness, while
consciousness comes and goes in and on that, like a wave on
water. They are the same substance or essence.
Q: InI Am That, Nisargadatta Maharaj says that the body identification
is one of the most difficult identifications to see through.
I find this true. It seems as if the awareness is located in the body.
What pointers or inquiries clarify this? There is awareness of bodily
sensations, feelings, senses, etc. There is also a clear awareness that
the body changes all the time, while this basic sense of beingness
never changes. Is this it? Is that all there is to this?
John: Yes. Not only the body, but all experiences are in consciousness
other bodies, the world, the mind, etc. If you
care to make a distinction between consciousness and awareness,
then that consciousness also comes and goes in awareness.
Nisargadatta Maharaj (actually his translators) usually
used the term beingness as a synonym for the transient
Q: I may be getting confused by the word awareness as a pointer
to the absolute reality. Awareness seems like something that would
be more characteristic of the body-mind or the nonverbal I am
consciousness, rather than an attribute of pure consciousness, the
John: Awareness and pure consciousness are the same
pointer, so use whatever word works best for you.
Q: Without the body and its perceptual mechanisms, how could the
absolute view anything?
John: This is exactly the point. There are no objects or any
need to view anything without the presence of the body,
senses and mind. So pause, and realise that all those appearances
come and go in what you ultimately are.
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