#4472 - Wednesday, January 4, 2012 - Editor: Jerry
Interview with Unmani on video:
Video Part 1:
Who I am is the only thing of importance, the rest appears in it; nothing
is not a boring, depressing thing; are you willing to die? The space beyond
beliefs; a recognition but not an understanding; seeing beliefs and concepts for
what they are; longer retreats to explore what is real; seeing the reality of
concepts; feelings do not mean anything to who you are; recognizing that
feelings, beliefs, traumas do not mean anything for me; it does not matter if
traumas are there or not; freedom that includes everything; death playing being
life; the skin is not the boundary of you; there are no other people, it is all
Video Part 2:
Lots of laughing and playing during the retreats; exploring reality of
beliefs and concepts; never-ending unravelling of what is true; uncomfortable
experiences mean something about me; emotions and judgements are just
happening; beliefs like I should not be judging are the troublemakers; freedom
for any beliefs, thoughts judgements etc.; life itself seems to want to open; no
restrictions, only beliefs in restrictions; continual loosing of every belief
you have ever believed in; no need to have a limited identity; searching itself
is the problem; endless creation is the nature of mind.
Video Part 3:
Minds wants to do something by its nature; who you are is noticing the role
of the person and what it does; the structure of the retreats; travelling around
in the world, no base at all, no set route; dying to everything you think you
know for the love that you are; love implies that everything is included
Peter Holleran responds to the following blog entry posted
We are born as pure consciousness, in time an ego is formed that comes
to inhabit this pure consciousness. The ego is the sum total of all the
knowledge absorbed from birth onwards. The sum total of this knowledge is made
manifest by consciousness. This knowledge that the ego is composed of can also
be seen as a hugely complex system of beliefs. It could be said that knowledge
is just data or information but that belief is something more. Belief can be
likened to desire made manifest. I believe in God can then be translated as 'I
want to believe in God because there is something to be gained by doing so.
Even the most insane of our beliefs can be translated in this way. There is
always a hidden agenda behind our beliefs in which something is expected to be
gained. It is not necessary that what is gained makes any sense. It is only
necessary that something is desired with the expectation of gaining something.
This is the hungry ghost referred to in Buddhism. The hungry ghost does not wish
to be free it wishes to continue eating or desiring. Usually when it expresses
the wish to be free it is in the hope that somehow it could be free while
continuing to desire. Desire is really the illusory belief that what is desired
will fill me or complete me. The fact that even when our desire is satisfied it
is satisfied for only a moment seems to go unnoticed. We are born as pure
consciousness and this never changes we are always that pure consciousness.
Consciousness is complete, nothing can change it. This is the great mystery, if
consciousness is already complete what is it we are looking for to complete
ourselves. The ego is the sum total of all absorbed knowledge and belief and is
made manifest by consciousness. Because consciousness itself has no agenda or
hidden beliefs it seems to have no substance. On the other hand the absorbed
knowledge and beliefs of the ego appear to have substance and so this illusory
entity is able to squat in an apparently empty house. The house is not empty
it is filled with consciousness and even the ego itself could not exist without
this consciousness. Consciousness is not interested in the delusions of the ego
because consciousness itself is always complete.
Posted by Ray Menezes at
Peter Holleran responds:
This person means well, but the quote is full of a lot of assumptions
that may not reflect true non-duality or necessarily even reality.
One, we are born as pure consciousness. How does one know this? Is it
because that is what we are told? I know Sri Nisargadatta seemed to think it is
true, but is it any more true than the teaching by the Tibetans that there is a
split second (for most people) at the time of death when they can glimpse pure
consciousness, before slipping into a stupor? Second, that ego is just the sum
total of all our experiences since birth - Is this true? Most scriptures say it
is a little more complex than that, that it is something that is much more 'old'
than that, like thousands of lifetimes old. It is also born in seed-form within
the person, then develops. And, third, the assumption is that ego is bad. Is
that true? Or is it really quite an evolutionary advance within the realm of
relativity to allow a self-reflection in the mind to propel us on towards
REALIZATION? Also, the equation is made that ego is just a bunch of
beliefs and/or desires. Is that true? What about the ability to think, observe,
watch, check our states, our actions, intentions, be creative, ponder truth,
etc.? In a true non-duality, "ego is just alright with me", to borrow a lyric.
To be stuck in ego only, yes, of course, is an impediment, but that
doesn't mean it has no place. Finally, which is a big subject, the conclusion
that consciousness is 'complete' and 'all there is' is an assumption as
well. All in all, imo, this is a typical example of choosing
one-side of two polarities within relativity, the supposedly 'absolute,"
'impersonal', 'timeless' one and saying it is all of truth. Yet isn't reality
maybe a little more rich than that? Just my thoughts.
Here's a Mayan Calendar thread from Nonduality
The Mayan calendar actually ended on October 28, 2011. The Mayans did not
have a leap year in their calendar. The Gregorian monks who created the calendar
that we use added that in themselves. When you deduct the extra days from the
leap years (420)you end up back at October 28.
Not that the facts will
stop all of the hysteria and hype we will see this year.
Well... maybe then we are already all dead!!
What the Mayan Elders are Saying About 2012
by Carlos Barrios:
Thanks, valerie, really interesting article with an authoritative