From here and there...
- Hi everyone...
From time to time I will be including
digests of current postings from lists other
than the NondualitySalon.
I will call it "From here and there" in
the subject line to distinguish it from
a NDS digesting
In addition, I will occassionally offer
up some gems of the past from the NDS.
The subject line on those digests will
say, "Gems from the NDS archives".
Hope you enjoy this one.
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your comments and suggestions. Thank you
for taking the time to offer them. If
anyone knows of a list offering a nondual
flavor, that is not being digested here...
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From HarshaSatsangh list
Digest dated 6-2-99 08:29 AM
A student asked a Zen Master, "Where does an enlightened master go after he
dies? Is he reborn or is he freed from the earth?"
The Zen Master answered "Which direction does a fire go after it is
to the North or to the South?"
Also from HarshaSatsangh
To know Being is to temporarily disable all identification; what "remains"
is called "enlightenment".
To know Being isn't an experience; what isn't an experience cannot be
described or explained. So analogies are used to
"intuit" and this works because Being can be recognized; recognition is
eased by the analogies.
From the Dzogchen list:
June 1, l999
From: Hannah Lloyd
"It is said in the Great Perfection teachings that one cannot
become enlightened through a contrived mind; rather, the
basic mind is to be identified, in relation to which all
phenomena are to be understood as the sport of the mind."
H.H. The Dalai Lama
November 23, 1990
From Harshasatsangh list:
In a message dated 5/31/99 4:34:08 PM:
Sometimes it seems we are players on a stage who started believing that we
actually were the characters we portrayed. ..we forgot the origin, the
real.... Frankly I've begun to tire of the stage and the character. I take it
off in moments and dip into the splendor of ISness. AAAhhhh, the masks
From Allspirit list:
Date: 31 May 1999 20:24:44 -0000
I thought I'd introduce myself with one of my own poems, the title piece
from my book, Early Tigers (Bellowing Ark Press, 1995)
Space is eating us.
I noticed it last night
before dinner. Only
a month ago
afternoon lingered forever.
Night has become an early tiger
waiting with cold teeth,
even in California heat.
Once I would have been frightened,
as uncertain when the sun stalled
as any Druid, but now I see
on walls and streets and sky,
another kind of equinox.
Space is eating us:
In its awesome gullet
Look forward to meeting you all.
From the IAM list
Sunday, May 30, 1999
Subject: [iam] A scrawl... on the beach.
The wisdom of Sophia... seems insane,
until... an In-sight of Oneness we gain.
Of the In-sights we 'see'... we cannot speak,
until... we're fear free... and no longer 'seek'.
( /\ ) Namaste,
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 11:05:15 +0100
From: "Gillian Eardley"
Subject: I was ready to tell...
I WAS READY TO TELL
the story of my life
but the ripple of tears
and the agony of my heart
wouldn't let me
i began to stutter
saying a word here and there
and all along i felt
as tender as a crystal
ready to be shattered
in this stormy sea
we call life
all the big ships
board by board
how can i survive
riding a lonely
with no oars
and no arms
my boat did finally break
by the waves
and i broke free
as i tied myself
to a single board
though the panic is gone
i am now offended
why should i be so helpless
rising with one wave
and falling with the next
i don't know
if i am
while i exist
but i know for sure
when i am
i am not
when i am not
then i am
now how can i be
coming to life again
since in this world
i have many times
like my own imagination
been born again
that is why
after a long agonizing life
as a hunter
i finally let go and got
hunted down and became free
~Rumi, ghazal number 1419,
translated April 17, 1991,
by Nader Khalili
Also posted to Allspirit List,
Date: 3 Jun 1999 15:34:07 -0000
Subject: Original Work
Song for the Moon
The tall tree reaches up
to caress the pale face;
under this light
its limbs dance so subtly
The tree and moon
cannot help but renew each other
both wanting so to touch the Other
I, in line with the tree and moon,
allow all heights to be reached,
loving all to be had
in a fleeting moment
I must capture the movement
of the moment
so I can remember I did not breathe
as the tree, moon and I
turned the universe
but was breathed by the tree
as a song for the moon
Posted to: email@example.com
Friday, June 4, 1999
by Jerry Katz:
In an earlier post it was mentioned that a person
attains equanimity in different ways. One is through strict physical and
mental control. Or a person can
gain equanimity through witnessing of reactions they
are experiencing. Or through surrender to the Guru.
There are many ways. I guess it was Patanjali who put
them all together into a lucid Raja Yoga.
But what a person has to be clear about is that when
there is control of feelings and senses, then it is
only the beginning. Then a person is able to go out and experience more
life and more opportunities to prove
that control and to become very intimate with what that control really is.
A person can come to witness the formation of tensions and know their
origin. And it will be found that their origin is in thoughts. And
then one can go deeper and deeper. Until nondual reality is met. At that
point another kind of beginning is encountered. And on